[daders]

Originally Posted by jkwhar

I'm going to answer this out of order lol.

I tapped the kcan at the idrive controller because I know its there and it was easier for me to route (only applies to CIC and not NBT since it uses kcan2).

I remember something on the EBA for the f10 mentioning 'video switch', which makes sense now. I think if the f10 came with night vision module, surround view, etc etc, it would need a video switch to add more source. check the EBA again on that.

If I had to take a guess on which unit your 2010 f07 came, I'm going with CIC. Take the head unit out and look at the quad lock. Compare the wires to the two charts (see which spots are blank and match that with the chart you posted before). Do you have night vision?


The 3 pin assignment E, A, M...
E = Input (German = Eingang)
A = Output (german = Ausgabe)
M = Ground (german = Masse)

Edit: additional note
The camera end of the connector seems to be proprietary. I've searched up and end and could not find anything like the connector. This was the reason why I had to purchase the HSD cable set. The 2 other HSD cable that I needed was ordered from China (this cable was in between two HSD cable in the door).

Thanks for the info...being young and naive at this camera retrofit investigation I am holding out hope that I can source the camera connection plug. It doesn't make budgetary/economic sense that they would use standard Rosenberger HSD cables and jack/plugs on one end and have a proprietary plug/jack on the camera end specific to BMW. I certainly don't want to buy all the wires from BMW just because I can't find one component, that would explode this project's cost...i.e. I looked up the passenger side view camera cable and it was listed at $450 (that's extortion), the others were listed at ~$250 each (excessive, imo).


In other news, I discovered in ISTA the wiring/pin locations for the different setups (CIC high unit, CIC w/video switch, CIC no video switch). I'm assuming ours has the video switch since we have the rear seat entertainment, from the description it has nothing to do with the Night Vision...but I can find all that out (which CIC is installed and whether we have the video switch) during the installation.

This is my first foray into doing out of the ordinary non-maintenance work and had never heard of EBA's before you mentioned this, I found some random EBA's via a google search...would I be able to locate them on bmwtis.com? Even though I have basic German reading comprehension, I definitely see the value having the EBA (like this one), so definitely would appreciate how to find that resource.

[Kevin_Trxn]

I just did this install using bimmer-tech's oem integration on a 2017 340i.

My reverse screen is different from the one's I've seen. I believe this is due to the new IDrive.

There's an unnecessary amount of space wasted on the screen and Im just wondering what goes there. I dont have PCD.

Also all in all a quick review for the bimmer-tech kit. The top of my video feed flickers even after checking all my connections. The wiring harness adaptor is unnecessarily long because you have to take a couple wires from the oem to plug into the new harness. So imagine 1 very short wire causing the other 30ish longer wires to form thick and unnecessary loop.

This also made it difficult to shove the head unit back in with all the extra wires taking up the space. I really had to spend some time finessing it all in.

The camera seems bright even on the lowest brightness setting.

I emailed bimmer-tech waiting for a response.


But anyways could someone post a pic of their display in reverse from the 2017 Idrive?

[Kevin_Trxn]

The two attached images show the flicker (i screen shotted a video) and the blown out image quality. This was taken at sunset and the white car is extremely blown out. This is the with the brightness and contrast at their lowest settings...

[daders]

Alas, I have confirmation as to jkwhar's statement about the waterproof plug for the camera side HSD cable not being able to be sourced. I randomly popped into Rosenberger NA headquarters and spoke with a very nice gentleman who kindly inquired to someone in Germany. Response was must go through dealer. I also stopped in to a company (Heilind) that works with numerous suppliers (i.e. Amphenol) that make competitive products and I am on strike 2. The quest to accomplish this without paying BMW prices continues...I have an iron in the fire (as the saying goes).

[Goggy_66]

Hey!
Has started my rear camera installation. Here's my contribution to this that I had trouble with;
1. Cable kit for F30 for OEM installation with the correct length has no. 61122360176 as confirmation of previous posts.
Bought at https://en.partacus.de/spareparts/se...no=61122360176.
Fits OEM ;-)
2. Finding the original location of the controller TRSVC was not easy but biffogar a picture that I got a lot of help with, hope it helps others.
Now I'm done with cable drag and it remains the most important and difficult part, all cables should be connected correctly, and coding.
What worries me is that installation is quite different for the F30 but with different years of model. My car is from 2016 and is a 330e and the first one discovered at cable drag, the recommended fuse seat is busy. So it's a lot different for each year that goes.
Anyone who has installed the OEM kit in a 330e with useful tips?

http://forumbilder.se/G8U0U/20170630-170647

http://forumbilder.se/G8U0U/topview

[Goggy_66]

Now I'm done with my installation. Tomorrow it will be coded, hope no problems arise. Have a lot of parts from my installation so if anyone is interested, just send PM.
HSD cable is 1.90 long.

http://forumbilder.se/G8UT8/20170710-134149

http://forumbilder.se/G8UT9/20170710-134303

[radoslavp]

Hi All,

I own a 06/16 320D LCI with factory front/rear PDC, professional navigation with touch idrive and want to retrofit the rear view camera.

I have already ordered the complete retrofit kit 66212361833 and brand new TRSVC 66539393953.

Hardware installation should not be a problem, all was discussed here. My car should have empty space on pins 51 and 52 so I will solder original pins 61130005197.

However please help me with coding the car.

Q1: Can I execute the camera retrofit procedure from ISTA 4.05.32 using ENET cable or do I need some other special cable to do so?
Q2: What would generally be the preferred option - code it with ISTA or VO code it with ESYS ?
Q3: I have only ENET cable, so if I go the ESYS VO code way - would it make sense to VO code all modules with 3AG or I have to VO code only the previously mentioned several modules?
Q4: Since TRSVC module I'll be using will be brand new - do I have to do something before VO coding in order to initialise the module or have the camera recognised? Please respond with as much detailed steps as you can here? I'm assuming I have to do something with ESYS, but what exactly?

Thank you for the support.

[Bimmer_F30.]

Awesome job!

[Goggy_66]

Finally!

[richcranney]

Great write-up, I've just ordered my OEM camera for my F31 so just getting prepared for when it arrives. Does anyone have the OEM guide for this retrofit? (If there is one) and the options that need to be coded in?

[richcranney]

Hi, sorry to bring up an old thread, but I have the same issue as @roxxor where I have the F10 cable rather than the f30.

The pics aren't working on the first page, so I can't picture where the cable was run to and the co trolley module was placed, any chance they could be updated or sent along?

[Goggy_66]

The thread is not old it is constantly updated as you see, but it is quite big and it is important to read the entire thread. But to help you now http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...=873744&page=6

[richcranney]

Originally Posted by Goggy_66

The thread is not old it is constantly updated as you see, but it is quite big and it is important to read the entire thread. But to help you now http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...=873744&page=6

Thanks Goggy, That helped a bit!

I've read through the whole thing now and I suppose this brings my next question.

After wiring and coding the camera, I get the option in the PDC for "Reverse Camera", but it doesn't actually activate the camera. No warnings or anything, just no camera picture.

So, this is what I did...

I've fitted my camera yesterday and coded it this morning, wow, what a job to get the wiring in and looped out of an F31 tailgate into the actual boot!

My wiring loom for the camera was from an F10 and the main difference I can see is that the wires that go to the head unit are White, Shield (transparent) and yellow. From everything I hear, Red is the norm, but I'm thinking my cable must for some reason have yellow instead of red.

I've placed the two CAN wires to the passenger footwell and used the BMW taps to clip into the same colour wires there.

Fuse wire placed into fuse box at the rear of the car in the boot.

Head unit wires -
White wire placed into 24
Transparent (shield) wire placed into 23
Yellow wire placed into 21

Coding done..

Added 3AG to car
Coded HU_HBT
Coded REM
Coded IST
Coded FEM_BODY

Have I missed something? Is there a way to tell what is the problem, faulty camera? Module? Wiring?

Thanks guys, appreciate any help.

[richcranney]

Ok, having checked my wiring, I think the CAN wires might be in the wrong place or tapped to the wrong CAN.

The connector block in the FEM module I need to tap into doesn't have any existing wires going into the pins so I have 2 questions...

Would having the wrong CAN cause the behaviour to show the camera option in the PDC viewer but just not activate?

Does anyone have the part number for the pin connectors to put the green / orange wired into the FEM module plug?

[magic77]

there is an earlier post if you are missing the wires the pins are still good to use. Just case you need to order couple of pins to put into the FEM connector. Dealers sell pins with wire tails and Part numbers are listed.

if you cant find them PM me

[richcranney]

Ok, so another successful retrofit!

Fitted mine into a F31 2013 and it works a treat.

Big thanks to magic77 with the link for the cables, after getting these today and swapping the CAN wires to this connector block, it comes on instantly.

For those of you thinking of doing this retrofit, it is t as daunting as the manual shows. Just use a bit of common sense and patience.

Hardest part for me... That F31 tailgate, getting the wire into the car from the boot handle. Unlike the saloon and coupes, the cable needs routing through a tiny rubber hose for water proofing and it is the smallest fit known to man, especially with the plug on the cable.

If anyone needs any help, just let me know.

[ryantpayton]

Originally Posted by magic77

if your pin 51 and 52 are empty simply pop into dealer and order some retrot fit pins with tails and insert the pins into the plug and make connection.

part numbers in earlier post

Hey magic,

Are you talking about the pins that the TRSVC connects into the REM?

[magic77]

No in the FEM module in newer built cars these no longer have wires to make the CAN connection. So you need pins to make the connection

[Aeromac]

Originally Posted by Goggy_66

.... My car is from 2016 and is a 330e and the first one discovered at cable drag, the recommended fuse seat is busy. So it's a lot different for each year that goes.
Anyone who has installed the OEM kit in a 330e with useful tips?

I'm doing this on a 330e, my (hopefully) last stumbling block is the Pins to my HUH. On mine Pin 22 is occupied, Pins 21 & 23 are free....wiring diagrams suggest Pin 24 is FBAS- might try it there...

I too found that the fuse location had a fuse in it but there was no electrical connection there...i.e. ie had a fuse in an empty location.

[player_pl]

Yes, you should use pins 21, 23 and 24.

Best regards.

[Aeromac]

Originally Posted by player_pl

Yes, you should use pins 21, 23 and 24.

Best regards.

Many thanks!

I've a camera error now, so at least I can rule out the wiring....I think I've to fix the TRSVC with Rheingold

[angeeezy]

Have a full 2015/16 Bimmer Tech MMI & backup camera available if anyone is interested.

Discounting heavily. PM me