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      07-28-2020, 07:01 PM   #573
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I have a Bimmer 2013 335i M Sport and bought the door light strips for asthetics and looks...They are not working, seller states they work if you have this installed already from factory which is fine but I would of thought I had them for the car and package that I have...How would I confirm this other than knowing they do not work...Car recently purchased. Thanks in advance.
I don't think this is the right thread
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      07-29-2020, 12:05 PM   #574
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I upgraded my 6.5" to 8.8" which works great but the backup camera image is still small and doesn't fill the screen - is there coding that will make that larger?
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      07-29-2020, 06:00 PM   #575
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i see this is some years ago, but ill try to ask here. i have the 6.5 HU ENTRY system on my car, but i have bought and installed the newer 8.8 screen with NBT HU. it works "fine" but bluetooth does not work and needs to be coded or in some way work with the bt that still is there, because i can still connect to the original bt in the car but its a different one on screen (from the previous car) so my question is does anybody know what more has to be done? someone talked about disconnecting the combox and a FAKRA HSD cable but im totally green on this. hope someone can help
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Hi guys,
Short question. Will LCI 8.8 screen 9387453 work with EntryNav2 w/navigation or not?
Currently I’ve read in this thread that 65506822626 works with EntryNav2 and NBT Evo ID6
However when looking on the back in particular connectors and markings on 65506822626 and 9387453 I see no difference except the part number. Apix2 is not mentioned on 9387453 too

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      08-06-2020, 07:10 AM   #577
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Hi guys,
Short question. Will LCI 8.8 screen 9387453 work with EntryNav2 w/navigation or not?
Currently I’ve read in this thread that 65506822626 works with EntryNav2 and NBT Evo ID6
However when looking on the back in particular connectors and markings on 65506822626 and 9387453 I see no difference except the part number. Apix2 is not mentioned on 9387453 too
7453 is apix 1. you would need a voltage converter to use it with entrynav2. 626 doesn't work with apix 1 (as noted in this thread by a few who tried)
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7453 is apix 1. you would need a voltage converter to use it with entrynav2. 626 doesn't work with apix 1 (as noted in this thread by a few who tried)
Ok, thanks, so I will order converter. It will be cheaper than to buy a new 8.8 display.

Additional question, somebody wrote in this thread that EntryNav2 with business navigation can not be coded to 8.8 at all. Seems for me not logical at all, is it true?
Because I prefer my EntryNav with working 8.8 instead of EntryNav2 with 6.5 even if it has navigation

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      08-06-2020, 09:44 AM   #579
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Ok, thanks, so I will order converter. It will be cheaper than to buy a new 8.8 display.

Additional question, somebody wrote in this thread that EntryNav2 with business navigation can not be coded to 8.8 at all. Seems for me not logical at all, is it true?
Because I prefer my EntryNav with working 8.8 instead of EntryNav2 with 6.5 even if it has navigation
yes the 6.5 with nav is believed to not work with 8.8 (its not 100% confirmed, but seems that way from posted experiences).

since business nav was only an option on the 6.5 inch cid, bmw doesn't put the extra resources for widescreen since it wasn't ever intended for it.
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yes the 6.5 with nav is believed to not work with 8.8 (its not 100% confirmed, but seems that way from posted experiences).

since business nav was only an option on the 6.5 inch cid, bmw doesn't put the extra resources for widescreen since it wasn't ever intended for it.
Thanks for answer. Sounds a bit strange, EntryNav with business navigation works fine on 8.8, why to make difference on EntryNav2? I hope it is not true because it will be a catastrophic scenario for me, since I already bought EntryNav2 and just waiting for can filter and cable with voltage converter... Please make it work...

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if you read through the whole thread it was seemingly never resolved. a few people have this issue and no solution was ever posted. i personally do not think its possible to fix (hopefully i am wrong)

to my knowledge business navigation was only available on the 6.5 inch CID. being thats the case, bmw did not include the resources on the hu for other display resolutions, since it would have had to have nav render in 6.5 and 8.8

to no-nav 6.5 inch cids can be upgraded since bmw left both 6.5 and 8.8 resources in them since it didn't take much space on the hu

the other navs already came with the 8.8 inch cid
There is Russian language site which has some post showing that 8.8 screen can be retrofitted to EntryNav with navigation. So I assume same will be actual to EntryNav2.

https://www.drive2.ru/l/10044520/
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      08-07-2020, 06:36 AM   #582
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There is Russian language site which has some post showing that 8.8 screen can be retrofitted to EntryNav with navigation. So I assume same will be actual to EntryNav2.

https://www.drive2.ru/l/10044520/
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well thats good, i guess its possible then.

on this thread, it seemed that everyone who had issues with the screen being chopped in half had business nav, so that was the conclusion i drew; and it seemed to make since since business nav was only available on the 6.5 inch cid
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      08-15-2020, 05:15 AM   #583
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Have a 2016 F30 with ENTRYNAV - Just installed the 8.8" part 9387453024

Once installed I started getting "NO SIGNAL", then reconnecting the old screen said the same. So right now I don't have a working display.

I've gone through the bimmercode advanced and set the following:
HU_NBT > 3000 HMI > DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 8.8_1280x480
HU_NBT > 3001 EXBOX > DISPLAY_VARIANTE = breites_display

That didn't appear to help. Anyone run into this before?
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      08-15-2020, 03:40 PM   #584
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Have a 2016 F30 with ENTRYNAV - Just installed the 8.8" part 9387453024

Once installed I started getting "NO SIGNAL", then reconnecting the old screen said the same. So right now I don't have a working display.

I've gone through the bimmercode advanced and set the following:
HU_NBT > 3000 HMI > DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 8.8_1280x480
HU_NBT > 3001 EXBOX > DISPLAY_VARIANTE = breites_display

That didn't appear to help. Anyone run into this before?
All I can say is - use E-Sys for this.

I tried coding those exact same values with Bimmercode repeatedly and it did not work. Worked on the first try with E-Sys.

It's a little daunting but watch some tutorials and take it step by step.

I also have a 2016 with ENTRYNAV. But I never had "no signal," just the cut off screen issue. So possible your issue is different.
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      08-15-2020, 04:16 PM   #585
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Thanks for the reply, reached out to Steve at codemybimmer and he was reading the code that the display wasn't connected, the old screen didn't work either, so I think I must have damaged the cable when doing the change. Will wait for a new cable to get here and go from there.
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      08-16-2020, 08:05 AM   #586
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I have tried the 65506822626 cid and couldn’t get it to work on a 03.2018 f30 with business navi. All I got was the “no signal” message after coding with bimmercode. I will try fitting a touchscreen 8.8” next, will see what results I get this time.
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Got the new cable in, worked with the original screen, connected it to the 8.8" screen and it was just black. Went back in to bimmercode (yes, I know I should use esys, not there yet) - and the HU_NBT tree wasn't there anymore - anyone ran into this?
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      08-17-2020, 06:08 PM   #588
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Got the new cable in, worked with the original screen, connected it to the 8.8" screen and it was just black. Went back in to bimmercode (yes, I know I should use esys, not there yet) - and the HU_NBT tree wasn't there anymore - anyone ran into this?
If NBT isn't showing up, it likely means the unit isn't getting power. I briefly ran into this myself because I was doing the screen upgrade at the same time as installing a CarPlay MMI and didn't have the quadlock plugged in.

Other general troubleshooting if this doesn't apply - leave the car for a while so it powers fully off and then come back and try again.
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      08-17-2020, 06:35 PM   #589
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Thanks for the advice, I pulled the battery and re-connected everything and the HU_NBT showed back up, once I selected the right settings, screen is working great!
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      08-19-2020, 10:04 AM   #590
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i've just installed a 626 screen on a UK registered f31 built in May 2018 with business NAV.

i used the coding

CID_DISPLAY_SIZE = 8.8
CID_DISPLAY_RES = 1280x480
DISPLAY_VARIANTE = breites_display

and all was good and went in pretty quickly, although i also had to change the Nav screen display resolution as the map was displayed at 6.5" even though the other screens were at 8.8".

i have a hunch that the park screen sensor screen is also at 6.5" resolution, but couldn't see a code setting for that. Anyone else have the same view and if so how did you resolve?

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      08-19-2020, 01:32 PM   #591
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i've just installed a 626 screen on a UK registered f31 built in May 2018 with business NAV.

i used the coding

CID_DISPLAY_SIZE = 8.8
CID_DISPLAY_RES = 1280x480
DISPLAY_VARIANTE = breites_display

and all was good and went in pretty quickly, although i also had to change the Nav screen display resolution as the map was displayed at 6.5" even though the other screens were at 8.8".

i have a hunch that the park screen sensor screen is also at 6.5" resolution, but couldn't see a code setting for that. Anyone else have the same view and if so how did you resolve?

thanks
Strange thing

Coding lines are those

Are you sure coding gone well? What tool are you using?
Try to read values again.

Then post some pictures on screen issues
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yes the 6.5 with nav is believed to not work with 8.8 (its not 100% confirmed, but seems that way from posted experiences).

since business nav was only an option on the 6.5 inch cid, bmw doesn't put the extra resources for widescreen since it wasn't ever intended for it.
I have a late 2017 F30 with entry nav2 (as far as im aware) and have successfully installed the 626 8.8 oem screen, been working perfect for a month or so now. it originally had the 6.5 inch screen. split screen also works.
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      08-26-2020, 01:19 AM   #593
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Bit of a long shot, but I have a 2014 pre-LCI F21 M135i (RHD) with business nav (EntryNav). I don’t suppose someone could point me in the direction of the correct 8.8 inch screen I need?
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Bit of a long shot, but I have a 2014 pre-LCI F21 M135i (RHD) with business nav (EntryNav). I don’t suppose someone could point me in the direction of the correct 8.8 inch screen I need?
I would use RealOEM to check out what part an equivalent car with your build date and an 8.8" screen was using.
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