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      10-20-2015, 04:18 PM   #1
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Dakota Leather - Real or Fake

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Is it real leather or pleather (plastic leather)!?

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      10-20-2015, 04:19 PM   #2
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Have read a few threads on here that say it's genuine but coated
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There's leather in there, but it isn't great quality, so a thin layer of leather and coated/bonded to something else much thicker.
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      10-20-2015, 05:36 PM   #5
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All leather used in modern cars is coated to protect the material, aniline leather (not coated so open pored) wouldn't stand up to the wear and tear, you get different grades and finishes and some require more treatment than others.

The closest you'll get to an uncoated leather is semi aniline but that is still coated.

But Dakota isn't a very good example of coated(pigmented) leather from a "luxury" POV in my opinion but it's hardwearing, which is probably a key performance need as well as cost.
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It's great IMO.

Not luxurious but personally I've never had any seats fail or mark up much.

The Napa however on the M4 was a worry, one fast exit wearing jeans or alike and I could see problems, it is very soft. It also seemed to get warmer or feel more insulated over a long journey which I was surprised about, noticeably more insulated than Dakota.

I don't really pamper my cars so getting in full of mud and sweat after sport etc, needs to be able to cope with all this, for me Dakota is perfect balance.

Others leather like Audi reminds me of the shiny BMW Napa.
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      10-21-2015, 02:24 AM   #7
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Agree with Chris. It's fit for purpose, looks ok, is leather & you don't have to worry about it.
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The leather in my missus's Mini Paceman is better than my 4 series. Dacota is shite IMO
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The leather in my missus's Mini Paceman is better than my 4 series. Dacota is shite IMO
X2. Would have ordered alcantara M sport interior even if a paid option. I had a Z4 loan car with the proper stuff in and it was lovely!

The nicest interior I have had was an ST Ford, which had really nice soft leather on the sides, with perforated heated and cooled alcantara in the middle
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It is far, far superior to the pleather that was in my skoda
At least the Dakota smells kind of like leather!
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It is far, far superior to the pleather that was in my skoda
At least the Dakota smells kind of like leather!
That must be dire then.
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It is far, far superior to the pleather that was in my skoda
At least the Dakota smells kind of like leather!
And in a Vauxhall Vectre "Elite" Ah man the name makes me giggle looking back at it now. Having said that it actually wasn't a bad car for the dollar but leather was like plastic, it just made you sweat!
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The leather in my missus's Mini Paceman is better than my 4 series. Dacota is shite IMO
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My wife has alcantara in her 1 series and its much nicer.
Dakota leather is crap IMO - hardwearing seats should be for Transit vans not a Premium (?!) car
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The Dakota is real but, as others have said, it is absolute shite!

It is, IMO, the biggest problem with the 3 series.
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It's better than fabric seats - especially when you have messy children. You can wipe clean the sticky sludge plastered on the seat easily - Can't imagine you would be able to do that with fabric.
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Seems hard wearing, but doesn't smell of leather - so doesn't seem special.
Not that impressed with it, other than being hard waring.
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It's great IMO.

Not luxurious but personally I've never had any seats fail or mark up much.

The Napa however on the M4 was a worry, one fast exit wearing jeans or alike and I could see problems, it is very soft. It also seemed to get warmer or feel more insulated over a long journey which I was surprised about, noticeably more insulated than Dakota.

I don't really pamper my cars so getting in full of mud and sweat after sport etc, needs to be able to cope with all this, for me Dakota is perfect balance.

Others leather like Audi reminds me of the shiny BMW Napa.
I had black nappa in 2 of my BMWs including an E53 X5 which I ran for about 6 years. It showed no signs of wear at all in that time and combined with Comfort Seats, was amazingly comfortable. The seats and leather are the thing I miss about that car, which was a boat in other respects. Great in winter, but too clumsy and wallowy for summer.

I would much prefer nappa to Dakota of my current car. Merino leather seems to be somewhere in between - it doesn't feel as soft as nappa to me.
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It's better than fabric seats - especially when you have messy children. You can wipe clean the sticky sludge plastered on the seat easily - Can't imagine you would be able to do that with fabric.
easy, don't let kids in the car! lol
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Funnily enough, I like the dakota leather in my F11, (my responsible adult reckoned it was dog sh*t brown colour but I liked it...)

I have recently ordered a F30 (330d M Sport) and was pleased to note the same hard wearing, decent looking leather, although this time I have gone for black.

I had a Hyundai Santa Fe a while back and decided that when in the '80s, manufacturers managed to get vinyl to look like leather, that in 2010, Hyundai returned the favour and managed to get leather to look (and feel) like vinyl.
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The individual Merino leather is in a completely different class to Dakota, it makes Dakota really feel like plastic!
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The individual Merino leather is in a completely different class to Dakota, it makes Dakota really feel like plastic!
It has a wonderfully rich waxy feel to it, gorgeous stuff.
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