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      07-19-2017, 02:27 PM   #1
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Do sway bar end links make a difference?

If you've got aftermarket sways, are upgraded end links a consideration? I know theres adjustable end links, but I couldn't find much on just an aftermarket upgraded/stiffer end link.

One commenter on some forum said a stiffer end link will allow the sway bar to transfer load quicker. Makes sense to me...it's the link between the bar and the suspension. But I couldn't verify that anywhere... and I couldn't find any specific aftermarket end links that claimed to be an upgrade.
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If you lower the car, adjustable links will allow you to adjust the bar so the geometry is at its best or has the most leverage.

http://www.hpashop.com/HP-Autosport-...-HPAEL-F3x.htm
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So for a lowered ride (@ 1.5 inch), what should be the right length for the end-link ?

should I get the longer end link (as compared to factory) or a shorter one ?
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So for a lowered ride (@ 1.5 inch), what should be the right length for the end-link ?

should I get the longer end link (as compared to factory) or a shorter one ?
You will need longer endlinks to get the bar back to a more ideal geometry. You need to extend your links 1.5" if space allows, otherwise at least 1 to 1.25".
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So from what I'm reading. When lowering your car, some "must haves" are: Endlinks, Camber kits, and Sway/Anti-roll bars?
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So for a lowered ride (@ 1.5 inch), what should be the right length for the end-link ?

should I get the longer end link (as compared to factory) or a shorter one ?
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You will need longer endlinks to get the bar back to a more ideal geometry. You need to extend your links 1.5" if space allows, otherwise at least 1 to 1.25".
When lowering the suspension, you will need shorter endlinks.

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So from what I'm reading. When lowering your car, some "must haves" are: Endlinks, Camber kits, and Sway/Anti-roll bars?
By "must haves" do you mean the parts are necessary? Or that you "might as well" install them together?

I would only consider the endlinks "must haves" because without them its likely you will not be able to correctly preload the sway bar. The need for camber kits really depends on the vehicle model and desired ride height, alignment, and wheel fitment. While adding a sway bar has many benefits, it is the furthest from necessary.

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I have msports adaptive sussi and for some reason when I changed over to coilover, I needed shorter end links to clear by lower arm. I'm running H&R ARB's as well so in order to clear the lower arm, I'm forced to use the outer hole of the ARB so that it sits flatter on the end links. To begin with I'm only lowered by 5mm and this suspension geometry is too much hassle considering its for a 5mm drop to begin with.

The car now has an odd feeling when stationary or at low speed inside parking lots etc, the steering just pulls due to the load to the end links. So yes I reckon that adjustable endlinks are required or anything end links that has the right length. Btw i'm using a Mercedes end link coz the length fits.
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Sway bar end links are a great and inexpensive upgrade for two main reasons, they often come with stiffer or upgraded bushings or joints and the adjustable ones allow you to properly set the end link length to match your ride height after you lower the car. Lowering the car with factory end links puts your sway bar under increased tension and, since you almost never lower the car exactly the same amount on the left and right sides, you will also have uneven tension on one side. In many cases, you may end up with a car that pulls slightly to one side or that feels a little strange in corners due to this sway bar tension.
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Checked my bars yesterday, their orientation seems fine when lowered, I think KW placed the endlinks attachment points properly so the lowering doesn't dramatically impact geometry[IMG][/IMG]

However i noticed my driver side endlink bushing is worn out, i believe stronger ARBs may be putting additional strain on them, so for me the interesting point is to use stronger parts so they don't break while driving :-/

However 4 UUC endlinks would set me back $300...
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Sway bar end links are a great and inexpensive upgrade for two main reasons, they often come with stiffer or upgraded bushings or joints and the adjustable ones allow you to properly set the end link length to match your ride height after you lower the car. Lowering the car with factory end links puts your sway bar under increased tension and, since you almost never lower the car exactly the same amount on the left and right sides, you will also have uneven tension on one side. In many cases, you may end up with a car that pulls slightly to one side or that feels a little strange in corners due to this sway bar tension.
Hmmm...Maybe that's why my car pulls slightly to the right? I've had it aligned twice and it still seems to pull a little. My car is only lowered 1 inch but maybe all cars are not the same and react differently....
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If you lower the car, adjustable links will allow you to adjust the bar so the geometry is at its best or has the most leverage.

http://www.hpashop.com/HP-Autosport-...-HPAEL-F3x.htm

Are these a pretty easy install?
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i lowered my car on BC racing coils 1 inch and it came with shorter sway bar links and handling improved alot... way less body roll
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