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      07-27-2017, 03:36 PM   #1
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Sport vs. Sport+

What are the exact differences?
I see that TC gets turned off in Sport+, is it fully off or in some type of Sport mode?
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      07-27-2017, 04:05 PM   #2
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Sport+ uses Dynamic Traction Control mode, which is the same as pressing the DTC button once, and different from holding the button down for a few seconds.
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      07-27-2017, 05:58 PM   #3
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when in manual mode with the 8A the car wont shift automaticly
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      07-27-2017, 06:03 PM   #4
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... and the last difference is availability of launch control in DS mode
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      07-27-2017, 07:04 PM   #5
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Launch Control?!
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Launch Control?!
Yup, see https://www.manualslib.com/manual/57...i.html?page=71
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      07-27-2017, 08:00 PM   #7
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What are the exact differences?
I see that TC gets turned off in Sport+, is it fully off or in some type of Sport mode?
Here's a video demonstrating the differences between Comfort, Sport, and Sport+



Hope it helps.
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      07-27-2017, 09:37 PM   #8
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I'm glad someone posted this - quick question. So I have a 2013 328 and it only has Eco / comfort / sport. It obviously drives more aggressive in sport but can I get better performance with playing with the traction control? When I push the traction button down it take me out of Sport. I "think" it stays in sport if I hold down the tracking button and at the same time set it to sport. However it may be just me but I feel like once I do that it doesn't drive as aggressive as in the standard sport mode.

Does that make sense?
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      07-27-2017, 10:25 PM   #9
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time to post this again:

DVC put this together (originally posted at http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...postcount=68):


I've tested the different combinations and found the transmission and chassis info correct.
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      07-28-2017, 08:01 AM   #10
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anotheran,

Thx for posting chart, it should be a 'sticky' at the top of forum imho.
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This is perfect.

So in other words, I should keep it in Sport+ on the track instead of turning TC completely off.
Good plan.

Playing with switching it fully off vs one button push at the PCD. I was able to run quicker with it left at one button push.

Did a nice 10 cone wipe out into the grass with the system fully disengaged (hold button it for 10 seconds) on a very tight 45 degree right hand turn that I was nailing with the system engaged at the first button push.

We were also able to drift on the wet skid pad with a single push. Think for a non-pro driver not switching the system fully off will give you all the fun you can want.

I usually drive Sport on the street but go to Sport+ if a traffic light grand prix comes up.
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time to post this again:

DVC put this together (originally posted at http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...postcount=68):


I've tested the different combinations and found the transmission and chassis info correct.
Does someone know if it is possible to code heavy steering for comfort mode?
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      07-28-2017, 11:27 PM   #13
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This is perfect.

So in other words, I should keep it in Sport+ on the track instead of turning TC completely off.
In my opinion, no. On the track, its good to practice smooth throttle modulation. The highly sensitive DBW programming in Sport+ is fun on the street, but could easily mess you up when at the limit on a track. A single press of the DTC button gets you more freedom from the nannies without turning them off altogether, the heavier steering, and I think in cars with adaptive shocks sets them to their more stiff behavior although my car doesn't have those so I can't confirm.
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This is perfect.

So in other words, I should keep it in Sport+ on the track instead of turning TC completely off.
I personally prefer dsc off but it's best to try each out on a clear safe environment and see which you prefer. But I too prefer the normal throttle for technical driving. The sensitive throttle is too twitchy for me in those situations
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What do they mean by kick down disabled and hold at red line?
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What do they mean by kick down disabled and hold at red line?
Means the transmission won't automatically switch back into auto mode and downshift/upshift, respectively, for you
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time to post this again:

DVC put this together (originally posted at http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...postcount=68):


I've tested the different combinations and found the transmission and chassis info correct.
Not sure who would be able to confirm this but my 2016 340 in sport plus seems to do more than my 2014 335 in sport plus. In the 14 everything besides dsc was the same. In the 16 it seems to have a further enhancement.
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      08-01-2017, 02:00 AM   #18
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I know of the concept but have not noticed it in this vehicle. With everything off the only thing I notice is the open Dif. Shocking to see in a 60k car.
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Why no DTC available in Sport? Any way to get firm suspension, heavy steering, and normal throttle with DSC still on? This is what I'd like for autocrossing...
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Why no DTC available in Sport? Any way to get firm suspension, heavy steering, and normal throttle with DSC still on? This is what I'd like for autocrossing...
Doesn't all that happen by simply pressing the DTC button once?
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Doesn't all that happen by simply pressing the DTC button once?
Nah.. according to that graph looks like it will set it back to "Comfort" mode? Or end up with light steering and light suspension.

It would be nice if we could adjust the settings individually like the M3's. Sometimes I would like heavy steering, exhaust "burble" and tight suspension and not always sensitive throttle.. It should have come with heavy steering, firm suspension with the options for light or sensitive throttle and burble or not..

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Why no DTC available in Sport? Any way to get firm suspension, heavy steering, and normal throttle with DSC still on? This is what I'd like for autocrossing...
you go to the setup option when you click into Sport mode
and select Sport mode to ONLY affect chassis/suspension and not the drivetrain

i have it set up this way in my car for normal driving

but for autocross, i use sport+ and/or DSCoff completely
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