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Tesla fighting BMW i5 concept teased? BMW promises 12 fully electric models by 2025

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BMW has likely previewed the i5 Concept in a short video it showed promoting electromobility. It looks identical to the design patent revealed last year. See those design patents @ http://bmwi.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1311029

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Shown in a short video to promote electromobility, the model looks virtually identical to the car which was revealed in design patents last year.

Just saw it on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BMWGroup/po...55692972283057

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BMW Announces 12 Fully Electric Vehicles by 2025:

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7 September 2017

Good morning, Ladies and Gentlemen!

For a century now, the BMW Group has demonstrated that it is willing to evolve – to set new ideas in motion. Technological leadership is part of our DNA. That’s why we are here today – to talk about what the BMW Group has planned for the future.

There are two main topics I would like to address:

1. The radical change in our business environment.

2. And, electro-mobility.

Regarding the first topic:

The automotive industry is in the midst of a fundamental change – that is clear. I’d like to begin by saying that the success of the BMW Group has always been based on long-term thinking. For decades, we have been working on the development of more efficient and alternative drive trains. In 2007 we launched Efficient Dynamics. On the way to an emission-free future, we will continue to optimize combustion engines.

In many of the current discussions, the customer’s needs are often ignored: Customer demand cannot be forced. Customer needs must be anticipated and met. Therefore, we do not advocate driving bans and quotas. We believe in convincing offers with modern, efficient and emotional vehicles. The challenge at

hand is that industry, government and NGOs work together on realistic solutions and timeframes. Only so, can we achieve the requirements for sustainable, emission-free mobility – and deliver attractive solutions for our customers.

The BMW Group is a company with both tradition and vision. Around a decade ago, we anticipated the "iconic change" and we put forward a clear strategy – far ahead of our competitors. We have clearly taken major steps in this transformation. Because: When the rules of the game change, we want to be the ones rewriting them.

We call the driving forces of future mobility the ACES: Automated, Connected, Electrified, and Services – specifically, mobility services. These are key elements of our corporate strategy, NUMBER ONE > NEXT, our roadmap for the future. The BMW Group is becoming more and more a "tech company" – and we are in an excellent position to move forward with the ACES. Many others are convinced too: Major players such as Intel, Mobileye, Delphi and Continental have joined forces with us to shape the future of automated driving. Our test fleet is now on the roads in Germany, Israel and the US – making daily trips.

That brings me to my second topic. As a pioneer in e-mobility, we began testing our MINI E fleet worldwide back in 2008. Valuable know-how was integrated into our first fully-electric production car, the BMW i3, the "original". It’s been the world’s top-selling electric car in its segment since its launch in 2013. We are successfully transferring BMW i’s technologies to our core models.

And today, we are very proud to offer customers the broadest range of electrified premium cars worldwide. This fall, we will have ten electrified vehicles available: nine electrified cars and our fully-electric C evolution.

This year, we will deliver 100,000 electrified vehicles to customers. By the end of 2017, there will be a total of more than 200,000 BMW Group electrified vehicles on the road.

What are our plans for the future?

Sustainable growth and profitability play a key role in shaping our future. We deliver on our promises: For seven consecutive years, our EBIT margin in the Automotive Segment has remained within our target range of 8-10 percent.

At the same time, we have been taking major steps in transforming our company. As part of NUMBER ONE > NEXT, we aim to substantially increase our sales and revenues in the luxury class. The BMW X7 and 8 Series both play an important part in this. Furthermore, the BMW Concept X7 demonstrates it is perfectly possible to combine a large sports activity vehicle with an electric drivetrain. Our strong commitment to e-mobility is underlined in NUMBER ONE > NEXT. We will be increasing the share of electrified models across all brands and model series. And, yes, that also includes the Rolls-Royce brand and BMW M vehicles.

Furthermore, we are currently gearing all BMW Group plants towards e-mobility. In the future, we will be able to equip all our models with every drive train. Two flexible vehicle architectures and a flexible production network will allow us to respond quickly and efficiently.

Let me make one thing very clear: In e-mobility, the BMW Group will also be the leading provider in the premium segment. By 2025, we will offer 25 electrified vehicles – 12 will be fully-electric. Today, and at the IAA, you will see the concept vehicle for the first series electric MINI, for release in 2019. As we have announced, we will be introducing the first BMW core model – the X3 – as a BEV in 2020. Going forward, all fully-electric BMWs will belong to BMW i. This also applies to the X3. We have also announced the BMW iNEXT – our next innovation spearhead – for 2021.

At this year’s IAA, we will unveil another significant milestone in our roadmap for e-mobility. It is a vision of how we imagine a four-door, fully-electric vehicle between the i3 and i8. It is a vision we want to realize in the foreseeable future. And a further step in our commitment to sustainable mobility.


Ladies and Gentlemen,

We believe in the mobility of the future – an individual mobility that is connected and emission-free. Modern society needs mobility. For many people, a car is a vital component of their everyday lives. We take our responsibility to society, our customers, our employees, and the environment seriously. That is why we are working hard and fast on the shift towards sustainable mobility.

Thank you.
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Decent bet being pitched alongside the i3 - curves look interesting - something unique with lines around door area.
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Rather than an i5 or other i-brand vehicle, my guess would be the electric 3 Series concept that has been discussed in the recent past:

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1398581

As noted in the above thread, this has been rumored to debut in Frankfurt.
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Rather than an i5 or other i-brand vehicle, my guess would be the electric 3 Series concept that has been discussed in the recent past.
Roofline too low to be a 3 series. Looks like a low slung coupe or gran coupe sedan of some kind.
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Roofline too low to be a 3 series. Looks like a low slung coupe or gran coupe sedan of some kind.
As a concept vehicle, its aesthetics needn't mimic what we know of today's 3 Series. This may not even be meant to foreshadow tomorrow's 3 Series for that matter. It could simply be what BMW's forward thinking designers suggest as one possibility for a future generation electric 3 Series product. A design exercise, if you will.
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Ok, with the text of the press conference now added, I'm a bit confused. This statement:

"Going forward, all fully-electric BMWs will belong to BMW i. This also applies to the X3."

is bewildering. Is he simply saying that the X3 will be branded the "BMW X3 iPerformance Electric" (or something along those lines)? Or is he saying that will now be called the "BMW iX3" (or something along those lines) and be positioned as a true i-brand vehicle?

BMW seems to be undergoing some very rapid iterative changes in branding, strategic direction, and product development refocusing. Very confusing message, IMHO.
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Wait a minute now. Just months after Mercedes announces "CASE":

https://www.daimler.com/innovation/s...lity/case.html

BMW is rearranging the letters to form "ACES":

"We call the driving forces of future mobility the ACES: Automated, Connected, Electrified, and Services – specifically, mobility services."

Really?
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Some crappy pics from a german forum. The pictures were taken during the construction of the IAA in Frankfurt.

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https://www.motor-talk.de/news/welte...-t6135687.html
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Rather than an i5 or other i-brand vehicle, my guess would be the electric 3 Series concept that has been discussed in the recent past.
Roofline too low to be a 3 series. Looks like a low slung coupe or gran coupe sedan of some kind.
I agree. Looks like a coupe to me. Couldn't be more excited about the development of another i car. Goodnight, Tesla.
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It looks to be a baby i8 with a more conservative profile and I'm okay with that! Perhaps something to complete with the Tesla 3?
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Wait a minute now, is the included press conference transcript even real? Just months after Mercedes announces "CASE":

BMW is rearranging the letters to form "ACES"

Really?
Harald Kruger, 1st July 2016.

Our focus on future mobility addresses four areas – which we call “ACES”:

Autonomous driving,
Connectivity,
Electric and/or emissions-free
and Sharing – especially for urban mobility.
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Harald Kruger, 1st July 2016.

Our focus on future mobility addresses four areas – which we call “ACES”:

Autonomous driving,
Connectivity,
Electric and/or emissions-free
and Sharing – especially for urban mobility.
These are all things I want in an appliance like iPhone not a "driver's" brand auto manufacturer.
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Time and time again I read the statements

"There will be no i8M"...
"i and M are different ends of the spectrum" ... "they are completely different philosophies"...

Well it looks like BMW have missed a massive trick because the statement I just read stated electrification of M cars - the i8 was the perfect way to show off what could have been done by M with hybrid tech in a mid engined car.

This seems an even bigger own goal since the promised i8s centenary car never materialised!
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Ok, with the text of the press conference now added, I'm a bit confused. This statement:

"Going forward, all fully-electric BMWs will belong to BMW i. This also applies to the X3."

is bewildering. Is he simply saying that the X3 will be branded the "BMW X3 iPerformance Electric" (or something along those lines)? Or is he saying that will now be called the "BMW iX3" (or something along those lines) and be positioned as a true i-brand vehicle?
Would be funny to see BMW iX3 X-Drive
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Harald Kruger, 1st July 2016.

Our focus on future mobility addresses four areas – which we call “ACES”:

Autonomous driving,
Connectivity,
Electric and/or emissions-free
and Sharing – especially for urban mobility.
So BMW "called shotgun" first, then? I think the Mercedes press release I linked to and use of the term CASE dates back only to last year's Paris show which was in September (it alternates bi-anually with Frankfurt). As you you point out, BMW used ACES as early as July of last year.

At any rate, I still think BMW has gone absolutely scatter-brain with their electric strategy. They are all over the place.

And what happened to the electric 3 Series that was spoken about in the other thread I linked to, which was suggested to be coming to Frankfurt? Has that too now been scrubbed in favor of promoting the i brand? What about the announcement just recently of electric versions of other CLAR BMW Series vehicles? All gone? Just what the heck are they doing? Whose steering the ship, BMW?
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Could it be something resembling this under the cover?

i5 patent images discovered last year: http://bmwi.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1311029





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"At this year’s IAA, we will unveil another significant milestone in our roadmap for e-mobility. It is a vision of how we imagine a four-door, fully-electric vehicle between the i3 and i8. It is a vision we want to realize in the foreseeable future. And a further step in our commitment to sustainable mobility."
There you have it. Whether it's called i5 or not is secondary but clearly it is an i5 concept in execution.
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All gone? Just what the heck are they doing? Whose steering the ship, BMW?
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Could it be something resembling this under the cover?

i5 patent images discovered last year: http://bmwi.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1311029





God, lets hope not...
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Harald Kruger, 1st July 2016.

Our focus on future mobility addresses four areas – which we call “ACES”:

Autonomous driving,
Connectivity,
Electric and/or emissions-free
and Sharing – especially for urban mobility.
So BMW "called shotgun" first, then? I think the Mercedes press release I linked to and use of the term CASE dates back only to last year's Paris show which was in September (it alternates bi-anually with Frankfurt). As you you point out, BMW used ACES as early as July of last year.

At any rate, I still think BMW has gone absolutely scatter-brain with their electric strategy. They are all over the place.

And what happened to the electric 3 Series that was spoken about in the other thread I linked to, which was suggested to be coming to Frankfurt? Has that too now been scrubbed in favor of promoting the i brand? What about the announcement just recently of electric versions of other CLAR BMW Series vehicles? All gone? Just what the heck are they doing? Whose steering the ship, BMW?
I couldn't agree more, their strategy is all over the place and they've missed golden opportunities
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