850+ HP BMW Clown Shoe AKA Z3 M Coupe

Jason · 02-22-2019, 03:17 AM

From the video creator:

Hey guys! Today Marcus is behind the wheel of an 850+HP BMW M Coupé running on E85, one of the most polarizing vehicles ever made. Is it ugly? Is it beautiful? It's a little bit of both, honestly. With a custom Vortech supercharger setup under the hood feeding the 3.2L S54 engine from the BMW ///M division, this car gives the turbocharged E46 M3 we filmed a run for its money. Enjoy!

Commanderwiggin · 02-22-2019, 06:19 AM

In for the 850whp dyno sheet

Other than the unrealistic supercharged hp... looks like a nice, sorted clown.

GOLFFRR · 02-22-2019, 06:53 AM

the clown shoe, you either love those or hate them. That thing is a beast, sounds pretty great also

Grumpy Old Man · 02-22-2019, 06:56 AM

I've always loved the Shoe, I might even give up the 993 for one.

Dynamic_m235 · 02-22-2019, 09:13 AM

Once I saw supercharger I lost a ton of interest

st-pierre · 02-22-2019, 09:14 AM

Love the shoe, but not sure i'd want an 850whp one

Grumpy Old Man · 02-22-2019, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by st-pierre

Love the shoe, but not sure i'd want an 850whp one

Kind of interesting, but I think I'd want to keep the engine somewhat stock.

BMWDavid · 02-22-2019, 09:21 AM

Up from 240hp-315hp stock (depending on the model year). Wow!

cfm56d7b · 02-22-2019, 09:50 AM

The video was well produced. I caught several glimpses of AP Racing calipers. Great choice in brakes harnessing all that extra power and bringing the vehicle to a stop with confidence.

2000Z3M · 02-22-2019, 09:55 AM

hows that subframe

RENT-A-GOAT · 02-22-2019, 09:59 AM

You have to love a clown they are just iconic and bonkers. It's such a shame this example has been molested and what's with the ZEE shit, we all know it's ZED!!

Red Bread · 02-22-2019, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Man

I've always loved the Shoe, I might even give up the 993 for one.

Loved mine, had it 14 years. The 993 was the one car that I seriously debated switching to, but never did. Both have some of the prettiest rear fenders. You can't go wrong with either.

48Laws · 02-22-2019, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Man

I've always loved the Shoe, I might even give up the 993 for one.

lol of course you’ll make a nice profit from that 993.

Kr3st · 02-22-2019, 11:36 AM

Dyno sheet, please. "I'm driving the detuned version of it"... LOL. Oh ok... You mean, what it actually makes.

jturboawd · 02-22-2019, 12:34 PM

the reason WHP is so high is likely high RPM and the 12-1 compression. 20lb, even blow, at high RPM with 12-1 pistons would put down good numbers for sure. Thats also why he needs e85 with meth direct injection.

xcusem3 · 02-22-2019, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jturboawd

the reason WHP is so high is likely high RPM and the 12-1 compression. 20lb, even blow, at high RPM with 12-1 pistons would put down good numbers for sure. Thats also why he needs e85 with meth direct injection.

No, the s54 in any form is incapable of producing 1000+ crank HP which it would need to in order to produce 850whp... High compression helps top end HP but adding boost to high compression engines doesn't fair well which is why you see so many supercharged s54 & s65 engines with less than 6lbs of boost because anymore and the high compression motor will grenade without being seriously rebuilt and stroked out.

c63er · 02-22-2019, 02:08 PM

TBH even if it were possible, why would anyone want 850 hp in it. The car as stock with 340ish hp was already a handful at times.

Now if someone could figure out how to get an e90 m3 suspension and subframe transplant without ruining the feel, that would be something

Red Bread · 02-22-2019, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by c63er

TBH even if it were possible, why would anyone want 850 hp in it. The car as stock with 340ish hp was already a handful at times.

Now if someone could figure out how to get an e90 m3 suspension and subframe transplant without ruining the feel, that would be something

Ha, yeah, stock was a handful at the track. Lots of looking through the side windows, some watching the world come at you through the rear view mirror, plenty of mowing and gravel rearranging. I can't imagine nearly 3x that power with that wheelbase and the E30 trailing arms.

52172 · 02-22-2019, 03:07 PM

Turbo would have been way better. Anyhow nice power

AGAV13 · 02-22-2019, 03:09 PM

That is my favorite BMW steering wheel. Also, I would sell all of my possessions for a proper and updated Z4M Clown Shoe.

Mrgunfun · 02-22-2019, 04:30 PM

Jason,

Let drop the nickname "Clown Shoe"
Its been played out.
It's a classic BMW I love.
Doesn't deserve that nickname.

Torgus · 02-22-2019, 05:02 PM

What a joke. No way that blower is helping it make anything close to 850hp.

02-22-2019, 03:17 AM	#1
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Commanderwiggin Captain 1159 Rep 845 Posts Drives: 19 M2C;12 X5 35D;Turbo E46 M3 Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Socal iTrader: (2)	In for the 850whp dyno sheet Other than the unrealistic supercharged hp... looks like a nice, sorted clown. __________________ 575RWHP F87 M2C - ECUTEK RACEROM with flex fuel tuning by Bend Calibration 1000+RWHP E46 M3, Lab22 Built Turbo S54, Bend Calibration Tuned - BMW Half Mile Record Holder Last edited by Commanderwiggin; 02-22-2019 at 06:25 AM..
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GOLFFRR 7750 Rep 25,068 Posts Drives: GOLFFRR cart Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: we sell BMWs to "ALL" US states iTrader: (4)	the clown shoe, you either love those or hate them. That thing is a beast, sounds pretty great also __________________ BEFORE YOU BUY YOUR NEXT BMW, PM ME FIRST WE CAN HOOK YOU UP! Jimmy Miller:jmiller@stevethomasbmw.com Cell:805-509-2048 If you have any issues getting a hold of Jimmy M PLEASE PM me, I'm available everyday till 545pm!
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Grumpy Old Man Lieutenant Colonel 6201 Rep 1,975 Posts Drives: Porsche 993, 2015 MB GLK Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Niagara on the Lake iTrader: (0)	I've always loved the Shoe, I might even give up the 993 for one.
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Dynamic_m235 Second Lieutenant 45 Rep 291 Posts Drives: 2016 m235i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: North Jersey iTrader: (1)	Once I saw supercharger I lost a ton of interest
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RENT-A-GOAT Captain 442 Rep 998 Posts Drives: F31 320D Xdrive Msport+ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Warwickshire iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW F31 320D X ... [0.00]	You have to love a clown they are just iconic and bonkers. It's such a shame this example has been molested and what's with the ZEE shit, we all know it's ZED!!
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Kr3st Wheel Whore 529 Rep 832 Posts Drives: 2016 F80 M3 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Orlando iTrader: (0) Garage List 2016 BMW M3 [0.00]	Dyno sheet, please. "I'm driving the detuned version of it"... LOL. Oh ok... You mean, what it actually makes. __________________ 2016 F80 M3: BBS FI-R \| JRZ RS-One \| ActiveAutowerke Full System including downpipes + Swain Coating \| ActiveAutowerke Active8 \| Maximum PSI Intake ^Build thread link \| Instagram \| Facebook
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c63er Captain 865 Rep 672 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: BMW iTrader: (0)	TBH even if it were possible, why would anyone want 850 hp in it. The car as stock with 340ish hp was already a handful at times. Now if someone could figure out how to get an e90 m3 suspension and subframe transplant without ruining the feel, that would be something __________________ Nice cars
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AGAV13 Captain 333 Rep 909 Posts Drives: AW 135is (#363/586) Join Date: May 2012 Location: CT 860 iTrader: (2)	That is my favorite BMW steering wheel. Also, I would sell all of my possessions for a proper and updated Z4M Clown Shoe. __________________ CURRENT 2017 Boxster S ?718? (07/27/18) 2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Recon - (10/28/18) SOLD 2013 BMW 135is #363/586 - AW, Black Boston Leather w/ Exclusive Blue Stitching, Prem., Tech, DCT, Heated Seats, HK
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Mrgunfun Second Lieutenant 219 Rep 239 Posts Drives: BMW M3 M-DCT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Garden State iTrader: (0)	Jason, Let drop the nickname "Clown Shoe" Its been played out. It's a classic BMW I love. Doesn't deserve that nickname.
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