F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > 2012-2019 BMW 3 and 4-Series Forums > General F30 Sedan / F32 Coupe / F36 Gran Coupe Forum > F32 General Reliability
ARMA SPEED
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-24-2020, 03:59 PM   #1
SquareWheels
Private First Class
128
Rep
190
Posts

Drives: M550
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Tennessee

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 M550i  [10.00]
F32 General Reliability

I bought a 2020 440i convertable last June. I have heard all of the jokes about saving money for the repairs. It even started with the high pressure finance person who wanted to sell me almost 10k with of protection plans, he was astonished I selected none of them as 80% of his customers bought all of it.

One of the items he said may fail in the future would the the digital display. He said if I bought the full protection, it would be covered, otherwise I'd be looking at spending about 8k on the repair.

The car is in perfect condition (I baby it) and still under warranty, and guess what just died? The digitial display.

I know you don't have a magic ball to look into, but am I looking at years of expensive repairs when this is out of it's 50k mile warranty? I drive about 15k miles a year, so that warranty will last just over 3 years.
Appreciate 0
      04-24-2020, 04:20 PM   #2
hans007
Major
618
Rep
1,085
Posts

Drives: 2020 BMW M340i
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (0)

LCD panels fail in a lot of devices though. Probably just the luck of the draw right?... The more cars go to digital displays (since they cost less than actual physical gauges to make) you won't be able to escape it.

I had a 328i before with the N26 and 8ZF and have m340i with the B58 and 8ZF and at least drivetrain wise, I've heard nothing but good things... so I'm not particularly concerned with that warranty wise. If that fails out of warranty, I'd imagine there will be parts available as none of these cars will be that rare ..... they sell replacement gauge clusters on ebay and they aren't that expensive
Appreciate 0
      04-24-2020, 05:14 PM   #3
Burrcold
Brigadier General
6297
Rep
4,533
Posts

Drives: 2024 M3 Comp xDrive
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Toronto, Canada

iTrader: (0)

There is no way it's $8,000 to replace the LCD.
__________________
Current: 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive | 2022 Audi Q7
Gone: 2022 Audi RS5 | 2020 BMW M340i | 2019 Audi RS5
Appreciate 2
vtown100.00
      04-24-2020, 05:19 PM   #4
golferboy2312
Private First Class
United_States
79
Rep
101
Posts

Drives: 2020 M340i xDrive
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Austin, Texas

iTrader: (0)

Google the bathtub curve. Basically most electro-mechanical parts will fail early or late in their life. You probably just got a rare display that failed early in it's life.

People at dealerships are trained to scare you with the types of stories you heard. I very rarely buy an extended warranty, in my opinion they are not worth it.

Like you said, no one can tell you what will happen in the future, but I will personally not worry about my car until it gets to 100k miles.
Appreciate 4
pneumodoc246.00
EXE462110.50
hans007617.50
vtown100.00
      04-26-2020, 10:06 AM   #5
SquareWheels
Private First Class
128
Rep
190
Posts

Drives: M550
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Tennessee

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 M550i  [10.00]
Thank you all.
Appreciate 0
      04-26-2020, 10:50 AM   #6
Wgosma
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
833
Rep
1,936
Posts

Drives: 2012 F25 X3 28i (N52)
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Northern Nevada

iTrader: (0)

bummer on display, but infant mortality is not totally uncommon with electronics, particularly with solid state devices.

I've been driving Bimmers for 15 years-every car purchased used from original owner- never had a warranty; I do some of my own service/repairs. I drove two 18 y/o 5 Series sedans to over 225K miles and never any major issues- engine and driveline are generally VERY solid; it's often the smaller stuff that gives owners fits, like the eco soybean gaskets used on the motors.... they have somewhat short lifespan, thus valve cover, oil filter and some pan gaskets need replacement at/near 75K or so miles

Be diligent regards service and preventative maintenance and you'll get reliable performance from the car. Going to keep the car past 100K miles....drain/fill new tranny fluid ~ 75K mile mark, ditto for differential gear oil, new coolant every 3-4 years.
Appreciate 1
      04-26-2020, 01:07 PM   #7
vtown
Private First Class
vtown's Avatar
United_States
100
Rep
132
Posts

Drives: 2013 335i
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: CT

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SquareWheels View Post
I bought a 2020 440i convertable last June. I have heard all of the jokes about saving money for the repairs. It even started with the high pressure finance person who wanted to sell me almost 10k with of protection plans, he was astonished I selected none of them as 80% of his customers bought all of it.
Lying sack of shit.
They make most of their money on that crap, little on the car itself.
Like anything it's a bit of a gamble, but feel like you generally come out ahead without the warranty in the long run with most things in life.
Appreciate 0
      04-26-2020, 01:19 PM   #8
Gen13 F36
Brigadier General
Gen13 F36's Avatar
United_States
1602
Rep
3,748
Posts

Drives: 428i Gran Coupe
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (1)

Its called finance agent scare tactics to get you to buy just anything he is selling.... from paint protection to extended warranty.

I'm more worried about the convertible for failing.... damn that shit expensive.
Appreciate 0
      04-26-2020, 01:24 PM   #9
Gen13 F36
Brigadier General
Gen13 F36's Avatar
United_States
1602
Rep
3,748
Posts

Drives: 428i Gran Coupe
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burrcold View Post
There is no way it's $8,000 to replace the LCD.
It's called price shock tactics.
Appreciate 0
      04-26-2020, 03:57 PM   #10
kpgray
GasCompressor
kpgray's Avatar
338
Rep
564
Posts

Drives: 2022 Porsche 911 Cabriolet
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Rochester, MI

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen13 F36 View Post
Its called finance agent scare tactics to get you to buy just anything he is selling.... from paint protection to extended warranty.

I'm more worried about the convertible for failing.... damn that shit expensive.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen13 F36 View Post
It's called price shock tactics.
+1

So you get a 2020 model and the display is not covered under the factory warranty? If the dealer actually charged $8K for a display, find a new dealer. The extended warranty is about $2.5K for an additional 2 years? That would give you coverage when driving 15K miles annually till 75K miles. The question is, would you have $2.5K in repairs from the 36K to 75K miles of your drive and would it be $2,500 or more??? This extended warranty is a HUGE money maker for the dealers (dealers rarely have to tap into this insurance), so reality, you would be paying a premium for blanket insurance for IF you have a problem. My last two F30's had 65K trouble free miles on them each! You are getting a 2020 that has had a 7 year model run to get any bugs out, the digital display was a fluke IMHO (it was new option in last couple years). Don't lose sleep, BMW really does make a pretty good product.
__________________

2022 Porsche 911 Cabriolet Agate Grey/Black PDK
2019 440i M-Sport Smoke Topaz Metallic/Opel (Sold)
2014 335i M-Sport Black/Beige MPPK/MPE (Totaled)
2013 328i Sport xDrive Imperial Blue/Grey (Sold)
Appreciate 1
      04-27-2020, 07:16 AM   #11
SquareWheels
Private First Class
128
Rep
190
Posts

Drives: M550
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Tennessee

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 M550i  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen13 F36 View Post
I'm more worried about the convertible for failing.... damn that shit expensive.
Me too.

----

I get it about the scare tatics. The test drive was fun. The sale went terrific. I ordered it as I wanted a special color, that took a few months to get to me as there was an airbag recall when it got to the US port.

The finance part was the only awful part. When I sat in his office there was a wheel sitting in the corner, a massive chunk of it missing. It had some customers name written on it in sharpie. I asked, what happened to that. I cannot believe I fell for that. Why would a finance guy have a customer wheel in his office?

Anyhow, still happy with the car. No idea when I'll get it back. The part had to be ordered (yes it's under warranty).
Appreciate 0
      04-27-2020, 08:58 AM   #12
SquareWheels
Private First Class
128
Rep
190
Posts

Drives: M550
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Tennessee

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2023 M550i  [10.00]
Can I ask an unrelated question? I am subscribed to this thread, but I am not receving emails, not in my spam either. Any thoughts on why not?
Appreciate 0
      04-27-2020, 04:45 PM   #13
Gen13 F36
Brigadier General
Gen13 F36's Avatar
United_States
1602
Rep
3,748
Posts

Drives: 428i Gran Coupe
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SquareWheels View Post
Can I ask an unrelated question? I am subscribed to this thread, but I am not receving emails, not in my spam either. Any thoughts on why not?
I don't either....and I don't want email for every thread I commented on. I just check my post subscription list on the user CP tab. Maybe check there if you can set an email notification.

I only get email when I get PM'ed.
Appreciate 0
      04-28-2020, 07:11 PM   #14
jhm5
Private First Class
United_States
63
Rep
131
Posts

Drives: X3 M40i, 440i, Z4 MR, 2002
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Maryland

iTrader: (0)

Only 21,000 miles on my 440i Manual Tranny Coupe. No issues at all. Great car!
John
BMWCCA
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:55 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST