Radar Detectors (Radio wave or laser)

PNF · 11-07-2008, 10:14 AM

Well, I have been on the edge of getting a radar detector for few years now... after 2 or 3 speeding tickets totalling about $700 over the past 4 years AND a new car that really RUNS......

I am trying to decide if it is worth it and which one to take?

The obvious choices that I have seen a lot of commercial on are the

ValentineOne
Passport 9500iX

http://www.1stradardetectors.com/Rad...FQOIFQodwl0ZPA

So, do you have one? If so, which one you have and how do you like it??

Do they really work??

I heard the cops are using the Laser detectors now and the conventional radar detectors dont work as well now as a result?

freshwhite335 · 11-07-2008, 10:17 AM

everyone here will say V1. But I have had both. The V1 is awesome on the highway as the range is amazing. If you do a lot of in town driving and/or in an aera where there are a lot of speed camera then i would get the 9500. i love my 9500 and it saves me every time and would rather have a second less of reaction time than my radar beeping at EVERYTHING. i put the V1 in my families "travel" car and for that its great.

devilzrule · 11-07-2008, 10:18 AM

got a cobra. works pretty well. if u get lasered i dont think it matters what u have. ur screwed.

PNF · 11-07-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by devilzrule

got a cobra. works pretty well. if u get lasered i dont think it matters what u have. ur screwed.

EVERY SINGLE ticket i have had are on highways and interestingly, they ARE ALL ON NJ TURNPIKE (I95) between exit 4 - exit 18 when I head to North Jersey....

I even got pulled for doing 74MPH once!!! (I mean.. come on.. people are going 75-80mph easily)

I am looking to get one that is well-balanced in the city/highway driving..

In the city, I usually dont drive fast.. (road is not very good anyway).. Mostly highway.

So, V1 website has it selling $399 + shipping. Is that the standard I should be looking at (vs all other brands as well?) $400 as the bench mark, as I do see quite a few $1000+ models..

Why screwed on Laser? I mean, I saw some detectors that can detect lasers as well.. and dont most of cops use laser now?

Andrew@ET · 11-07-2008, 10:25 AM

do not get a cobra.

i went from

cobra ticket 8500 ticket 9500 didnt like it now v1 in love no ticket

PNF · 11-07-2008, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miamibusta69

do not get a cobra.

i went from

cobra ticket 8500 ticket 9500 didnt like it now v1 in love no ticket

but you have no ticket because you havent been beamed on, or because V1 really does tell you that you are being beamed on and you slowed down before you get pulled over?

How does it work anyway.. cops beamed you, you're going at 90mph.. then your radar tells you you're beamed, you slow down to 65mph.. do you still get pulled, since you did at once get detected at 90mph..

danniexi · 11-07-2008, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PNF

Why screwed on Laser? I mean, I saw some detectors that can detect lasers as well.. and dont most of cops use laser now?

Most radar detectors can detect laser, but they have a short range. By the time you are hit with the laser and get notified, it's already too late to do anything about it. The cop will already have your speed and then catch you. Radar, however, can be detected from far away, giving you the ability to slow down.

For complete coverage, get a radar detector and a laser jammer. They are legal in the US sans certain states.

and yeah, my tickets are from the jersey turnpike as well. especially watch out for exits 13-15. They are equipped with lasers, not radar.

xraymd · 11-07-2008, 10:30 AM

V1 FTW

You won't regret it. As noted above, it will beep a lot in town if you have it in 'A' mode. I keep mine in 'L' or 'full logic' mode and it works beautifully. It'll beep like crazy if you pull up in front of an automatic door, like at a grocery store, but that's its job. And with the arrows, you know if activity is coming from the side of the freeway and can be ignored.

nj335i · 11-07-2008, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PNF

but you have no ticket because you havent been beamed on, or because V1 really does tell you that you are being beamed on and you slowed down before you get pulled over?

How does it work anyway.. cops beamed you, you're going at 90mph.. then your radar tells you you're beamed, you slow down to 65mph.. do you still get pulled, since you did at once get detected at 90mph..

Radar detectors can't save you once you get hit. They are just there to tell you that radar is being used up ahead so that you can slow down before the speed trap. As for your use of the word "beaming"... it sounds like you're talking about laser. I haven't encountered too many cops using laser, but the ones that do, they wait until they see a speeding vehicle before switching it on. In that case, you're out of luck.

PNF · 11-07-2008, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nj335i

Radar detectors can't save you once you get hit. They are just there to tell you that radar is being used up ahead so that you can slow down before the speed trap. As for your use of the word "beaming"... it sounds like you're talking about laser. I haven't encountered too many cops using laser, but the ones that do, they wait until they see a speeding vehicle before switching it on. In that case, you're out of luck.

Thanks for the input and yes, I was sort of assuming most cops use lasers now and hence whether it is still worthwhile to get radar detectors when they dont detect lasers as effectively.

devilzrule · 11-07-2008, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PNF

Thanks for the input and yes, I was sort of assuming most cops use lasers now and hence whether it is still worthwhile to get radar detectors when they dont detect lasers as effectively.

they detect laser...and when it does inform you its pretty much telling you to "pull over"

digivue · 11-07-2008, 10:54 AM

A radar detector cannot save you against pacing, plane speed enforcement and direct laser speed measurement, therefore, in my opinion, eyes and anticipation where the speed trap could be are the best tools around.

digivue · 11-07-2008, 10:56 AM

BTW, if I were to buy one, V1 is the one for me, hands down.

Majikthese42 · 11-07-2008, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PNF

Thanks for the input and yes, I was sort of assuming most cops use lasers now and hence whether it is still worthwhile to get radar detectors when they dont detect lasers as effectively.

They still use plenty of "instant on" radar in New Jersey. BTW, the laser guns don't work through glass, so they usually won't sit in a patrol car with the window open when it's cold. Winter is our friend. Nothing is 100% foolproof to avoid speeding tickets except not speeding.

I have two V-1s.

danniexi · 11-07-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PNF

Thanks for the input and yes, I was sort of assuming most cops use lasers now and hence whether it is still worthwhile to get radar detectors when they dont detect lasers as effectively.

Get radar detectors. The LE still uses them quite often. I was driving on Rt. 46 in NJ and my radar detetor went crazy. I slowed down, and next thing you know I find two cops on either sides of the highway hiding. On major highways, lasers will be used (mostly state troopers) and on more local areas radars or lasers are used.

Quote:

Originally Posted by devilzrule

they detect laser...and when it does inform you its pretty much telling you to "pull over"

LOL +1. I couldn't agree with you more. One time, my detector (escort 8500) said "LASER" and immediately I knew I got fucked. It should've just said "FAIL."

AndreyATC · 11-07-2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miamibusta69

do not get a cobra.

i went from

cobra ticket 8500 ticket 9500 didnt like it now v1 in love no ticket

+1
Cobras are POS

I got ticket with my old car driving 80mph
It wasnt even Laser

Passport is in my 335i now

freshwhite335 · 11-07-2008, 11:47 AM

cobras are a joke

bsamoul · 11-07-2008, 11:47 AM

V1

Lassaxi · 11-07-2008, 12:16 PM

Why do we even have a

function of people can't be bothered to use it?? And, post in the correct forum next time...

9500ix Radar Detector Is Awsome!!

Radar detector suggestions?

Radar Detectors

Detector recommendation?

Those with V1.. have you gotten a speeding ticket since you bought one?

Passport 8500 X50 owners......

Valentine 1

Radar detectors

what is the best radar detector??????

Valentine 1 Highway Effectiveness

Radar detectors

radar detector

Radar Detectors

radar detectors?

V1 vs. Escort 9500i

My V1 Vs. Passport 8500

recommendation on radar detector please.

Best Radar Detector?

Best Radar...

Radar Detectors

PNF · 11-07-2008, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lassaxi

Why do we even have a

function of people can't be bothered to use it?? And, post in the correct forum next time...

9500ix Radar Detector Is Awsome!!

Radar detector suggestions?

Radar Detectors

Detector recommendation?

Those with V1.. have you gotten a speeding ticket since you bought one?

Passport 8500 X50 owners......

Valentine 1

Radar detectors

what is the best radar detector??????

Valentine 1 Highway Effectiveness

Radar detectors

radar detector

Radar Detectors

radar detectors?

V1 vs. Escort 9500i

My V1 Vs. Passport 8500

recommendation on radar detector please.

Best Radar Detector?

Best Radar...

Radar Detectors

Wow, thanks for your time to do this. I apologize as I was just doing a poll more than anything.

This topic does not belong to general discussion?

HighVoltage · 11-07-2008, 01:04 PM

The V1 doesnt have to be noisy if you program it accordingly. Many people dont realize just how programmable it is, mostly because they didnt bother to read the manual:

http://www.valentine1.com/Lab/MikesLabRpt3.asp

Mine is actually more "quiet" than my X50.

I would check to see what kind of Lidar/Radar your county/city uses to gauge if you should even consider something like a laser jammer, which can be relatively expensive compared to a radar detector. You also dont have to buy the most expensive radar detector(s) either. There are some very cost effective and still very capable radar detectors like some of the Whistlers.

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/speed-trap-info/
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...regional-info/

The best detector though is between your ears.

1) As your drive around, start to think about the best spots you would "hide" to try to catch speeders, like just past the crest of a hill or an apex, or in the shadow of a building on a bright day, etc..and slow down in those areas.

2) Dont get tunnel vision. Look around. Use your rear view mirror.

3) Use other vehicles. Watch for brake lights and sudden slowed traffic.

4) If someone is on your ass, let them go by, wait till they get out a few hundred yards and then speed up but stay at relative fixed distance. Thats your rabbit (bait). <= Best done with a radar detector and you take a chance with lidar.

The last 2 are very effective. Let other people be lazy or distracted and make those mistakes. In this particular instance the fact that people are typically not focused on the task of actually driving (versus turning the big wheel about and jamming on the little stop-and-go thingies on the floor) is to your advantage.

PNF · 11-07-2008, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighVoltage

The V1 doesnt have to be noisy if you program it accordingly. Many people dont realize just how programmable it is, mostly because they didnt bother to read the manual:

http://www.valentine1.com/Lab/MikesLabRpt3.asp

Mine is actually more "quiet" than my X50.

I would check to see what kind of Lidar/Radar your county/city uses to gauge if you should even consider something like a laser jammer, which can be relatively expensive compared to a radar detector. You also dont have to buy the most expensive radar detector(s) either. There are some very cost effective and still very capable radar detectors like some of the Whistlers.

http://www.radardetector.net/forums/speed-trap-info/
http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...regional-info/

The best detector though is between your ears.

1) As your drive around, start to think about the best spots you would "hide" to try to catch speeders, like just past the crest of a hill or an apex, or in the shadow of a building on a bright day, etc..and slow down in those areas.

2) Dont get tunnel vision. Look around. Use your rear view mirror.

3) Use other vehicles. Watch for brake lights and sudden slowed traffic.

4) If someone is on your ass, let them go by, wait till they get out a few hundred yards and then speed up but stay at relative fixed distance. Thats your rabbit (bait). <= Best done with a radar detector and you take a chance with lidar.

The last 2 are very effective. Let other people be lazy or distracted and make those mistakes. In this particular instance the fact that people are typically not focused on the task of actually driving (versus turning the big wheel about and jamming on the little stop-and-go thingies on the floor) is to your advantage.

This is exactly how I limite my speeding tickets to 3 or 4 so far... or else, I'd think i'd have more....

I think I am probably going to go for V1~ thanks.

View Poll Results: Do you own a Radar detector?
Yes (Please state your brand/model)	74	71.84%
No, I always drive under the limit	4	3.88%
Still thinking to get one...	25	24.27%
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PNF Colonel 167 Rep 2,355 Posts Drives: 15' YMB F80 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wayne, PA / Taipei iTrader: (4)	Radar Detectors (Radio wave or laser) Well, I have been on the edge of getting a radar detector for few years now... after 2 or 3 speeding tickets totalling about $700 over the past 4 years AND a new car that really RUNS...... I am trying to decide if it is worth it and which one to take? The obvious choices that I have seen a lot of commercial on are the ValentineOne Passport 9500iX http://www.1stradardetectors.com/Rad...FQOIFQodwl0ZPA So, do you have one? If so, which one you have and how do you like it?? Do they really work?? I heard the cops are using the Laser detectors now and the conventional radar detectors dont work as well now as a result? __________________ 2015 F80 Fully loaded (minus the CCB) YMB M3 / Individual Amaro Brown BBS \| KW \| Vorsteiner \| IND \| Akrapovic \| BMW CF Performance Interior \| Brembo \| Eibach 2008 E92 335i (sold)
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freshwhite335 Colonel 148 Rep 2,882 Posts Drives: 991/RR Sport AB Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 904 FL iTrader: (6) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [0.00]	everyone here will say V1. But I have had both. The V1 is awesome on the highway as the range is amazing. If you do a lot of in town driving and/or in an aera where there are a lot of speed camera then i would get the 9500. i love my 9500 and it saves me every time and would rather have a second less of reaction time than my radar beeping at EVERYTHING. i put the V1 in my families "travel" car and for that its great. __________________ 2014 Range Rover Sport Autobiography 2012.5 991 C2S 1978 Corvette
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devilzrule Private 1 Rep 99 Posts Drives: 07 328 xi Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: edison, nj iTrader: (1)	got a cobra. works pretty well. if u get lasered i dont think it matters what u have. ur screwed.
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Andrew@ET Brigadier General 181 Rep 4,038 Posts Drives: Red thing Join Date: May 2007 Location: Earth iTrader: (9)	do not get a cobra. i went from cobra ticket 8500 ticket 9500 didnt like it now v1 in love no ticket
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xraymd Lieutenant 309 Rep 572 Posts Drives: 23 M2, 22 Lincoln Navigator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toledo, OH iTrader: (0)	V1 FTW You won't regret it. As noted above, it will beep a lot in town if you have it in 'A' mode. I keep mine in 'L' or 'full logic' mode and it works beautifully. It'll beep like crazy if you pull up in front of an automatic door, like at a grocery store, but that's its job. And with the arrows, you know if activity is coming from the side of the freeway and can be ignored.
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digivue Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 279 Posts Drives: '09 E90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	A radar detector cannot save you against pacing, plane speed enforcement and direct laser speed measurement, therefore, in my opinion, eyes and anticipation where the speed trap could be are the best tools around.
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digivue Second Lieutenant 25 Rep 279 Posts Drives: '09 E90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	BTW, if I were to buy one, V1 is the one for me, hands down.
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HighVoltage . 32 Rep 867 Posts Drives: 07 E90 335i Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: . iTrader: (0)	The V1 doesnt have to be noisy if you program it accordingly. Many people dont realize just how programmable it is, mostly because they didnt bother to read the manual: http://www.valentine1.com/Lab/MikesLabRpt3.asp Mine is actually more "quiet" than my X50. I would check to see what kind of Lidar/Radar your county/city uses to gauge if you should even consider something like a laser jammer, which can be relatively expensive compared to a radar detector. You also dont have to buy the most expensive radar detector(s) either. There are some very cost effective and still very capable radar detectors like some of the Whistlers. http://www.radardetector.net/forums/speed-trap-info/ http://www.radardetector.net/forums/...regional-info/ The best detector though is between your ears. 1) As your drive around, start to think about the best spots you would "hide" to try to catch speeders, like just past the crest of a hill or an apex, or in the shadow of a building on a bright day, etc..and slow down in those areas. 2) Dont get tunnel vision. Look around. Use your rear view mirror. 3) Use other vehicles. Watch for brake lights and sudden slowed traffic. 4) If someone is on your ass, let them go by, wait till they get out a few hundred yards and then speed up but stay at relative fixed distance. Thats your rabbit (bait). <= Best done with a radar detector and you take a chance with lidar. The last 2 are very effective. Let other people be lazy or distracted and make those mistakes. In this particular instance the fact that people are typically not focused on the task of actually driving (versus turning the big wheel about and jamming on the little stop-and-go thingies on the floor) is to your advantage.
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