struggling at low speed maneuvers

speedmaster20d · 09-07-2021, 11:04 PM

So after driving the G80 for a couple of hundred miles I finding a drawback with the ZF and it's actually not the shift speed. It actually downshifts just as fast if not faster than the DCT so no complaints there.... but the first gear torque convertor creep is killing me when parking... I know it has auto hold but I still cannot place the car with precision. With the DCT I could literally inch the car forward or backward just with the throttle, can't do it here. without auto H, the car just jumps as soon I lift my foot off the break...almost hit a barrier the other day...with auto H it needs quite bit of gas to let go and then jumps again...really having a hard time inching back into my garage and not hitting the wall....

anyone else find this annoying or just me...I wonder what the solution could be...

beachBmmr · 09-08-2021, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by speedmaster20d

So after driving the G80 for a couple of hundred miles I finding a drawback with the ZF and it's actually not the shift speed. It actually downshifts just as fast if not faster than the DCT so no complaints there.... but the first gear torque convertor creep is killing me when parking... I know it has auto hold but I still cannot place the car with precision. With the DCT I could literally inch the car forward or backward just with the throttle, can't do it here. without auto H, the car just jumps as soon I lift my foot off the break...almost hit a barrier the other day...with auto H it needs quite bit of gas to let go and then jumps again...really having a hard time inching back into my garage and not hitting the wall....

anyone else find this annoying or just me...I wonder what the solution could be...

I agree, especially in reverse its a bit touchy. A little jerky in and out of the garage..

barryc365 · 09-08-2021, 07:03 AM

I know what you mean. I think it's less jumpy in comfort. The sport plus throttle is definitely aggressive for inching the car forward or backward

Maybe put it in comfort and take the auto hold
Off for parking?

I must try out this parking assistance pro feature that I paid for but have yet to use!

Murf · 09-08-2021, 08:13 AM

Agreed it is really annoying at low speeds, I have the parking pack and use the cameras constantly to make sure im not going to hit things.

LuvMyE92 · 09-14-2021, 10:27 AM

My G30 autohold was a button that I had to press to engage it. Are you saying that on the G80 it's always on by default? Is there no way to turn it off?

KevinGS · 09-14-2021, 11:19 AM

if you put it in the startup settings when doing low-speed parking maneuvers, you should be fine. the pedal is soft, and you can baby the throttle...at least I can. And yes, make sure Autohold is off.

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Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

My G30 autohold was a button that I had to press to engage it. Are you saying that on the G80 it's always on by default? Is there no way to turn it off?

same button, you can turn it off

BIGW0RM · 09-14-2021, 12:55 PM

This reminds me of how bad the F10 M5 DCT was. You try pulling up close to a curb and you look like an old person stabbing the gas and slamming the brakes just to move 1". It made everyone look like a bad driver with poor driving reaction time.

brava09 · 09-14-2021, 02:32 PM

No such problems with the ZF on my F90. It inches back or forth with much precision, foot on the brake though

savi01 · 09-15-2021, 02:16 AM

Just got my M3 and noticed the same issue. Frustrating to park in my garage where space is limited and I have to creep it forward as close as I can.

BIGW0RM · 09-15-2021, 03:17 PM

This is not good news to hear. That was the #1 thing I hated about my F10 M5 DCT. It lurched feet at a time. So inching up was dam near impossible.

Ugh. I ordered one and havent even driven one. Opsee!

superbrew · 09-16-2021, 09:19 AM

It's better than the F80 with DCT.
After you are in gear, either D or R, you can feel the transmission engage after about a second or so. Then just control the speed with the brake. I find it much easier than the DCT, although the first few times I backed out of my garage it caught me off guard.

09-07-2021, 11:04 PM	#1
speedmaster20d First Lieutenant 350 Rep 399 Posts Drives: 21 G80 comp BG. 2018 F80(sold) Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: South Bay iTrader: (0)	struggling at low speed maneuvers So after driving the G80 for a couple of hundred miles I finding a drawback with the ZF and it's actually not the shift speed. It actually downshifts just as fast if not faster than the DCT so no complaints there.... but the first gear torque convertor creep is killing me when parking... I know it has auto hold but I still cannot place the car with precision. With the DCT I could literally inch the car forward or backward just with the throttle, can't do it here. without auto H, the car just jumps as soon I lift my foot off the break...almost hit a barrier the other day...with auto H it needs quite bit of gas to let go and then jumps again...really having a hard time inching back into my garage and not hitting the wall.... anyone else find this annoying or just me...I wonder what the solution could be... __________________ 2018 M3 Competition SO II : sold 2021 M3 Competition BG
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09-08-2021, 07:03 AM	#3
barryc365 Major 1956 Rep 1,382 Posts Drives: BMWM3 Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: NYC iTrader: (1)	I know what you mean. I think it's less jumpy in comfort. The sport plus throttle is definitely aggressive for inching the car forward or backward Maybe put it in comfort and take the auto hold Off for parking? I must try out this parking assistance pro feature that I paid for but have yet to use!
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09-08-2021, 08:13 AM	#4
Murf Captain 885 Rep 897 Posts Drives: 2021 G80 M3C - Dravit Grey Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Florida iTrader: (2)	Agreed it is really annoying at low speeds, I have the parking pack and use the cameras constantly to make sure im not going to hit things.
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09-14-2021, 10:27 AM	#5
LuvMyE92 Occasionally frequent poster 3000 Rep 2,744 Posts Drives: CT5V-Blackwing Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: RTP NC, USA iTrader: (0)	My G30 autohold was a button that I had to press to engage it. Are you saying that on the G80 it's always on by default? Is there no way to turn it off? __________________ Current inventory: F22 & G05 Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing w/3 pedals Past: E24,E28(3),E34,E36,E37,E38(2),E39(4),E46,E89,E92 (obviously),F01,F06,F10,F30,F87,G12,G30(2),G82(2)
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BIGW0RM You got my money? 3156 Rep 4,646 Posts Drives: Ice Cream Truck Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: ///OC iTrader: (14) Garage List 2022 BMW M3 [9.50]	This reminds me of how bad the F10 M5 DCT was. You try pulling up close to a curb and you look like an old person stabbing the gas and slamming the brakes just to move 1". It made everyone look like a bad driver with poor driving reaction time. __________________ 2022 G80 M3 Competition X / 2020 Range Rover Sport P525 / 2023 Ford Raptor
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09-14-2021, 02:32 PM	#8
brava09 Lieutenant Colonel 767 Rep 1,683 Posts Drives: M4C xdrive Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Europe iTrader: (0)	No such problems with the ZF on my F90. It inches back or forth with much precision, foot on the brake though __________________ 22 M4 Competition xdrive 19 M5 Competition sold 16 F-Type S AWD sold 11 Audi RS5 Misano Red--sold 08 E92 M3 Jerez Black 6MT--sold 08 E92 335i 6MT traded in for M3
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09-15-2021, 02:16 AM	#9
savi01 Private First Class 135 Rep 119 Posts Drives: 2022 BMW M3C Join Date: May 2021 Location: California iTrader: (0)	Just got my M3 and noticed the same issue. Frustrating to park in my garage where space is limited and I have to creep it forward as close as I can.
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BIGW0RM You got my money? 3156 Rep 4,646 Posts Drives: Ice Cream Truck Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: ///OC iTrader: (14) Garage List 2022 BMW M3 [9.50]	This is not good news to hear. That was the #1 thing I hated about my F10 M5 DCT. It lurched feet at a time. So inching up was dam near impossible. Ugh. I ordered one and havent even driven one. Opsee! __________________ 2022 G80 M3 Competition X / 2020 Range Rover Sport P525 / 2023 Ford Raptor
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09-16-2021, 09:19 AM	#11
superbrew Private First Class 134 Rep 149 Posts Drives: 2022 M3Cx Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Nashua, NH iTrader: (0)	It's better than the F80 with DCT. After you are in gear, either D or R, you can feel the transmission engage after about a second or so. Then just control the speed with the brake. I find it much easier than the DCT, although the first few times I backed out of my garage it caught me off guard.
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