[Mikey242]

Hi. I just purchased a 2013 BMW active hybrid 3. It drives in gas mode fine. The problem is with the electric part of the car. The previous owner has informed me that the EME has to replace and possible the hybrid battery. However here in the Bahamas, good BMW mechanics are hard to find. I'm pretty handy with tools and have been maintaining my own vehicles for years. I have already gotten quotes on the new EME and battery. However I would use some advice on the best way to have them installed.

[NxTH]

You don't describe what the problem is. What are the error codes? To replace a hybrid battery, at least here you need a certificated garage with permissions to do it. What do you mean by 'best way to have them installed'?

So what is the issue? The electric mode never kicks in? If the hybrid battery is completely out, the AH3 wouldn't work at all.

[Mikey242]

Ill will try to get the codes. But the AC does not work and the car is not charging the hybrid battery. Not sure if the reason its not charging is because the EME is bad or not. The problem is, I'm in the Bahamas and the only local dealer will not work on the car because it was not sold by them. They will only do the diagnostic but will not install or code the what ever parts has to be replaced.

[Mikey242]

The electric mode does not kick in. I've gotten quotes on a new EME and hybrid battery. I'm pretty knowledgeable with cars, how ever I've never dealt with a hybrid. I'm sure I have what ever tools are required. However getting it coded is where I hit a road block. Any idea what scanner is capable of this or maybe someone who can possibly do this remotely?

[NxTH]

If the high-voltage hybrid battery is at fault, you should not replace it yourself, this can kill you. In terms of reading codes and whatnot, I recommend installing ISTA on a laptop. Even Bimmerlink for android can tell you a few things.

When have you replaced the batteries in the trunk? Aux and normal? Before guessing more, we'd need to see the error codes to find the issue.

[Mikey242]

Ok that's helpful. I found the the site for ISTA software. Thanks a million.

[NxTH]

Originally Posted by Mikey242

Ok that's helpful. I found the the site for ISTA software how ever I'm not seeing a link to purchase what ever cables I will need. I'm certain there is some OBD cable or some sort of cable I would need? Reading the capabilities of this software, Wow. I cant thank you enough.

Depends on your laptop. OBD to Ethernet, or OBD to Ethernet to USB adapter. It's called an ENET cable.

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=enet+cabl...f=nb_sb_noss_1

[Mikey242]

Thanks. I found it and ordered it already. Once I have the error codes I will update you. Thanks alot.

[Mikey242]

So, I finally got the car and got the info from ISTA.

[NxTH]

Originally Posted by Mikey242

So, I finally got the car and got the info from ISTA.

This will probably get you going

[Mikey242]

Question. I got a quote on a new EME, which is more than half the value of the car. I found a few used ones on eBay. Is it possible to replace and code my EME with a used one? I also found a company that claimed to repair them. Thoughts on this?

[anom3]

these bmw hybrids are somewhat rare.

very doubtful you will get a 100% answer on this question as I doubt there is even anyone on here who has replaced their eme with a used one.

some (very few) modules are Vin married, if an eme is one of these is the question.

i highly doubt it is... but who knows.

if it were me I would try replacing it with a used one without a doubt.

that being said, i didn't even zoom into your pić of the module map but none of them were red... are you sure the eme module is not working at all?

edit : eme is showing yellow. so it's communicating with the car. all depends on what the codes are... clear them all, see if anything comes back., go from there.

Originally Posted by Mikey242

Question. I got a quote on a new EME, which is more than half the value of the car. I found a few used ones on eBay. Is it possible to replace and code my EME with a used one? I also found a company that claimed to repair them. Thoughts on this?

[NxTH]

Originally Posted by Mikey242

Question. I got a quote on a new EME, which is more than half the value of the car. I found a few used ones on eBay. Is it possible to replace and code my EME with a used one? I also found a company that claimed to repair them. Thoughts on this?

I've seen someone replace their EME with a used one for under 3000 dollars, and having it working. What error codes are you getting? When was the last time the trunk batteries were changed? 12V and AUX?

[Mikey242]

I clear the codes over the weekend these came back right away.

[Mikey242]

Originally Posted by Nico-

I've seen someone replace their EME with a used one for under 3000 dollars, and having it working. What error codes are you getting? When was the last time the trunk batteries were changed? 12V and AUX?

Well, the car starts and drives, so I didn't bother to change those batteries. The issue is that that car doesn't switch into ECO or hybrid mode and the AC is not working. They were replaced with in the last 18 months.

[pedropinto]

Good evening Everyone

I am new to BimmerPost. I live in the Bahamas and own an ActiveHybrid 3. Bumped into this forum while searching for answers to a similar problem. Mikey242, did you ever get your problem sorted out?

Thanks

[TheNine90]

What fault codes do you have? Was anything replaced?

[pedropinto]

Originally Posted by TheNine90

What fault codes do you have? Was anything replaced?

Starter motor was recently replaced.

Fault codes from BimmerLink:
Error Memory

Front electronic module
2 errors
8041A8: Welcome Light repeat lock active
804483: RLS (LIN slave): Faulty condensation sensor

Electrical machine electronics
6 errors
220581: Emergency run manager: Request to open relay of additional device due to fault in DME
220564: Emergency run manager: EGS forced upshift request (high) due to fault in DME
220515: High-voltage power management: no high-voltage release despite request
220569: Emergency run manager, high-voltage battery: immediate contactor opening. There is a category 7 error (Battery Switch Open Immediately) on the SME.
22056A: Emergency run manager, high-voltage battery: requested contactor opening. There is a category 6 error (commanded contactor opening) on the SME.
220582: High-voltage power management: Request starter generator emergency run from emergency run manager

Digital Motor Electronics
6 errors
218404: Starting voltage converter / starter generator, control: line interruption
212601: Starter generator: MSA permanently deactivated
212001: Starter generator, communication: bus error
CD8F10: LIN, communication (starter generator): missing
235410: Emergency run manager: Request to increase idle speed from the electric machine control unit
21A110: Engine torque limitation: as a result of the emergency running request from the electric machine emergency running manager control unit

Rear electronic module
1 error
8048C1: Rear window heating, relay: line to relay interrupted or short circuit to positive

Battery management electronics
8 errors
21F0B0: HVS: CSC function: open line of a cell voltage measurement occurred
21F0C0: HVS: CSC function: plausibility error in cell voltage
21F147: HVS: Cell voltage measurement - one or more cell voltages are invalid
21F157: HVS: plausibility voltage sensors module 6 - voltage implausible
21F18A: Deactivation of the main switch after an error
21F1A1: Safety concept, level 2: high-voltage battery, voltage too low / high or unknown
21F1B2: HVS: Level 2 - shutdown detected
21F1BA: SME: Safety concept - shutdown by level 2

Integrated automatic heating / air conditioning system
2 errors
E71431: Message (STAT_FOG_UP_FRONT, 0x2D1, FA): DT_FOG_WDW_FT invalid value
E71432: Message (STAT_FOG_UP_FRONT, 0x2D1, FA): DT_TEMP_WDW_FT invalid value


Info Memory

Central Gateway Module
5 errors
101008: Non-resolvable ambiguous routing - SG not in the SVT target table
100600: Flexray protocol startup time is too high
100104: HW Weckgrund ZGW
100203: DM software error info warning
100204: Message monitoring: no system context signal

Front electronic module
2 errors
804029: NVM_QUEUE_EEPROM
93071F: Outgoing error message buffer is full

Electrical machine electronics
10 errors
220563: Check control message: drive malfunction. Attention, from SOP 7/12 change to: Check-Control message: Drive drive moderately.
220503: High-voltage power management, electric refrigerant compressor: power reduction
220581: Emergency run manager: Request to open relay of additional device due to fault in DME
220564: Emergency run manager: EGS forced upshift request (high) due to fault in DME
220563: Check control message: drive malfunction. Attention, from SOP 7/12 change to: Check-Control message: Drive drive moderately.
220517: High-voltage power management, high-voltage contact monitoring (High Voltage Interlock Loop): malfunction
D7942C: FlexRay, message (Nav-Graph 2 current segment, 252.2.4): missing
D7942E: FlexRay, message (Nav-Graph 2 Route Offset, 261.2.4): missing
220563: Check control message: drive malfunction. Attention, from SOP 7/12 change to: Check-Control message: Drive drive moderately.
220503: High-voltage power management, electric refrigerant compressor: power reduction

High beam assistance
1 error
5F0000: Info memory: Online calibration initially completed

Integrated Chassis Management
5 errors
4827F9: QDM-SKR - correction factor radius - learning condition 2
4827F8: QDM-SKR - Radius correction factor - Learning condition 1
482651: Slip angle estimator - inputs not valid SBS
4827B3: Internal control unit - Undervoltage at Terminal 30
4827A0: SBS function - roll rate - error amplitude due to suspected error

Digital Motor Electronics
6 errors
1FB701: Check control message (ID 397): Auto start stop function failed
108932: Intake air temperature sensor: group error
1A2108: Electric fan, self-diagnosis level 1: slight fan fault
20A703: Engine cooling system: component protection Temporary engine power reduction
1FB701: Check control message (ID 397): Auto start stop function failed
1C0401: Engine oil pressure regulation: unstable

Roof function center
1 error
801A20: CAN_E_TIMEOUT

Rear electronic module
1 error
8049E5: CNM_E_NETWORK_TIMEOUT

Battery management electronics
1 error
21F188: Throttling - Reduction of the discharge current limit due to the temperature / SOC limit

Electronic transmission control
2 errors
44D4D1: Shift-By-Wire: Info counter for Auto-P when leaving the vehicle
44E532: Hybrid sequence control (HAS): close asynchronous K0

Integrated automatic heating / air conditioning system
3 errors
07800C: CANIF_E_STOPPED
07802B: COMM_E_NET_START_IND_CHANNEL_0
078043: LINIF_E_RESPONSE

[TheNine90]

It look like battery has an issue. You can get ista and use test plan to work out through the fault codes.

[valera685]

Hello
I have same issues for my F30 who can help me to understand this problem





Fault code memory list, VIN: WBA3F9C56DF483968 08.06.2024, 18:04:41 - 1/2

ISTA system version: 4.31.40.24277 Data version: R4.31.40 Programming data: 4.31.41
VIN: WBA3F9C56DF483968 Vehicle: 3'/F30/SEDAN/ - /N55,-/
AUTO/US/LL/2012/11
Int.lev.works: F020-12-11-505 Int.lev.(cur.): F020-18-03-530 Int.lev.(tar.): -


Code Description Mileage Existent Class
801A4C SINE: Undervoltage in the internal voltage supply detected 272056 yes Information
21F1A1 High-voltage battery, safety concept 2: Voltage outside nominal range
or unknown
272056 yes Information
21F1A0 High-voltage battery, safety concept 2: Temperature too high or
unknown
272056 yes
21F18A High-voltage battery, switch contactors: Switch-off after a fault 272056 yes
21F16E High-voltage battery, cell block 8: Temperature sensor malfunction 272056 yes
21F16D High-voltage battery, cell block 7: Temperature sensor malfunction 272056 yes
21F16C High-voltage battery, cell block 6: Temperature sensor malfunction 272056 yes
21F16B High-voltage battery, cell block 5: Temperature sensor malfunction 272056 yes
21F16A High-voltage battery, cell block 4: Temperature sensor malfunction 272056 yes
21F169 High-voltage battery, cell block 3: Temperature sensor malfunction 272056 yes
21F168 High-voltage battery, cell block 2: Temperature sensor malfunction 272056 yes
21F167 High-voltage battery, cell block 1: Temperature sensor malfunction 272056 yes
21F163 High-voltage battery, cell block: Several temperature sensors faulty 272056 yes
21F159 High-voltage battery, cell block 8: Voltage measurement, measured
value implausible
272056 yes
21F158 High-voltage battery, cell block 7: Voltage measurement, measured
value implausible
272056 yes
21F1B2 High-voltage battery, safety concept 2: Switch contactors, switch-off
detected
272056 yes
21F157 High-voltage battery, cell block 6: Voltage measurement, measured
value implausible
272056 yes
21F155 High-voltage battery, cell block 4: Voltage measurement, measured
value implausible
272056 yes
21F154 High-voltage battery, cell block 3: Voltage measurement, measured
value implausible
272056 yes
21F153 High-voltage battery, cell block 2: Voltage measurement, measured
value implausible
272056 yes
21F152 High-voltage battery, cell block 1: Voltage measurement, measured
value implausible
272056 yes
21F151 High-voltage battery: Summed currents of individual cells implausible 272056 yes
21F150 High-voltage battery: Summed voltages of individual cell blocks
implausible
272056 yes
21F149 High-voltage battery: Voltage implausible, no substitute value 272056 yes
21F147 High-voltage battery, evaluation electronics for cell block: One or more
voltages invalid
272056 yes
21F06E High-voltage battery: Internal CAN bus, at least one evaluation
electronics unit for a cell block is not responding
272056 yes


21A110 Engine torque limitation: as the result of emergency operation request
from control unit of electrical machine emergency operation manager
272056 yes Information
235410 Emergency operation manager: Request idle speed increase of
electrical machine control unit
272056 yes Information
22056A Emergency manager, high-voltage battery: Fault category 6,
commanded opening of contactor
272056 yes Information
220569 Emergency manager, high-voltage battery: Fault category 7,
immediate opening of contactor
272056 yes Information
220502 High-voltage power management, signal evaluation: Signals of SME
invalid or not received
272056 yes
21F156 High-voltage battery, cell block 5: Voltage measurement, measured
value implausible
272056 yes
21F1BA SME, safety concept 2: multiple faults 272056 yes

[JuniorTech]

battery issue

[valera685]

Originally Posted by JuniorTech

battery issue

I changed the battery and on the dashboard it says 20% but it is not prohibited and does not drive from the hybrid system