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      02-03-2022, 08:44 PM   #1
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2017 330i FBO E85 Dyno Graph

Hey guys I recently dyno'd my car and wanted to share.

2017 330i B46 RWD
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Stock Turbo
E85 tune by Navardi Tuned

324whp/347ft-lbs
0-60 4.21s
1/4 12.509s (Better numbers coming soon )

Fair warning to everyone looking to run high ethanol blends. My car has 69,000 miles. At 68,000 miles I experienced injector failure and had to refresh them with a new set. This has also recently been happening in the B58 community who are pushing a lot of ethanol. It looks like servicing injectors will become a common practice to run e85 just like gapping spark plugs is recommended for stage 2. If you are on the lower side of mileage then you probably do not need to worry but of course, log your car and consult with your tuner if any issues arise.

I also have some street racing videos on how the car does against 335s, 340s if people are curious I can share. My IG is @i4.f30

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Hi, my B48 full stock is also tuned by E85 Navardi Tuned map (perfect job !).
Thank you for Injectors warning, i'll check (42000KM).
Could you share a log ?
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Hi, my B48 full stock is also tuned by E85 Navardi Tuned map (perfect job !).
Thank you for Injectors warning, i'll check (42000KM).
Could you share a log ?
https://logs.mgflasher.com/log/a0682...b-74571252d480
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Impressive results! Looks like she scoots for sure.
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great, my n26 can't did it
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great, my n26 can't did it

Yeah it can. Will need a b58tu HPFP and custom tune.

If you need more fuel s63tu injectors are next and flow all the fuel you want. N20/N26 will make around 310-320whp. reach out to navardi tuned. Custom line + HPFP is under 1k these days.
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Yeah it can. Will need a b58tu HPFP and custom tune.

If you need more fuel s63tu injectors are next and flow all the fuel you want. N20/N26 will make around 310-320whp. reach out to navardi tuned. Custom line + HPFP is under 1k these days.
I fuel 98RON, FBO, big turbo, dyno tested today,was 230WHP....
The logs, power curve looks fine, but the horsepower isn't great, I'm figuring out why.And tuner was navardi

Maybe the reason is that the ignition is only 10 degrees
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Are you sure you're n20? The dyno is correct with its readings ? There has to be a factor as that doesnt seem right at all. Stock n20/n26 cars make the same or more power than your current graph.

Looking at your previous posted bootmod3 logs, you should be around 280-320whp.

This is what you shared :

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=61c5...90c63ffe52042d

This is one of mine for comparison:

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6205...729b3a50871145
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I fuel 98RON, FBO, big turbo, dyno tested today,was 230WHP....
The logs, power curve looks fine, but the horsepower isn't great, I'm figuring out why.And tuner was navardi

Maybe the reason is that the ignition is only 10 degrees
So a few things can influence this,
1 is the type of Dyno (inertial or load bearing), then any correction factors used, temp and humidity, baro pressure/altitude, fuel quality, ramp rates, strapping, tyre pressure etc.

What dyno is this?

Your MAF based on the latest log in your account shows quite low airflow readings for an upgraded turbo, as we discussed I don't believe this compressor wheel is correct choice as 20 - 24 PSI are all flowing the same air. ignition values are slightly below standard as your fuel quality is not the best it can be and there was some knock registered on prior logs so timing was adjusted.

Your latest log
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=61e2...0b4350b26a2045


Going forwards to get better numbers (these appear close to what a stock turbo on a stage 2 91 tune make on a low reading load bearing Dyno)
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Are you sure you're n20? The dyno is correct with its readings ? There has to be a factor as that doesnt seem right at all. Stock n20/n26 cars make the same or more power than your current graph.

Looking at your previous posted bootmod3 logs, you should be around 280-320whp.

This is what you shared :

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=61c5...90c63ffe52042d

This is one of mine for comparison:

https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=6205...729b3a50871145
I don't know what the brand of DYNO is, but he did some tests of other cars,and the results were all in line.
The logs, power curve looks fine, there might be something wrong with the way the bundle is tied, and theoretically this turbine pressure wouldn't have only such a small amount of horsepower
It's a free test, and I do a paid test after replace the charge pipe and intake pipe
Your logs show that the ignition is over 15 degrees ahead, mine is 10 degrees, and my experience is that 1 degree ignition increases the power by 2%-3%,your horsepower will be much larger than mine
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So a few things can influence this,
1 is the type of Dyno (inertial or load bearing), then any correction factors used, temp and humidity, baro pressure/altitude, fuel quality, ramp rates, strapping, tyre pressure etc.

What dyno is this?

Your MAF based on the latest log in your account shows quite low airflow readings for an upgraded turbo, as we discussed I don't believe this compressor wheel is correct choice as 20 - 24 PSI are all flowing the same air. ignition values are slightly below standard as your fuel quality is not the best it can be and there was some knock registered on prior logs so timing was adjusted.

Your latest log
https://www.bootmod3.net/log?id=61e2...0b4350b26a2045


Going forwards to get better numbers (these appear close to what a stock turbo on a stage 2 91 tune make on a low reading load bearing Dyno)
Yes, totally agree. It's just strange that this data, but the daily driving experience is improved
Maybe try buying a better turbine
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Hey guys I recently dyno'd my car and wanted to share.

2017 330i B46 RWD
MST Intake
FTP Turbo Inlet Pipe
VRSF Catless Downpipe
B58TU HPFP
Stock Turbo
E85 tune by Navardi Tuned

324whp/347ft-lbs
0-60 4.21s
1/4 12.509s (Better numbers coming soon )

Fair warning to everyone looking to run high ethanol blends. My car has 69,000 miles. At 68,000 miles I experienced injector failure and had to refresh them with a new set. This has also recently been happening in the B58 community who are pushing a lot of ethanol. It looks like servicing injectors will become a common practice to run e85 just like gapping spark plugs is recommended for stage 2. If you are on the lower side of mileage then you probably do not need to worry but of course, log your car and consult with your tuner if any issues arise.

I also have some street racing videos on how the car does against 335s, 340s if people are curious I can share. My IG is @i4.f30

If you guys are interested in buying B58TU pumps you can get them here https://iposmotorsport.com/products/...sure-fuel-pump
Hi Kevin,

Nice data, thanks for sharing as previously discussed, your whp and 1/4 mile times off. Either dyno reading lower or has to do with track prep. I am guessing its because your track was prepped really good which is also why you are breaking driveshafts.
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Yes, totally agree. It's just strange that this data, but the daily driving experience is improved
Maybe try buying a better turbine
You said you have big turbo? WGDC 90% and only 20psi boost.
I think turbo not the best or something off.

Also your fuel quality have a lot to do with it as well.
Better fuel, better timing and more power
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You said you have big turbo? WGDC 90% and only 20psi boost.
I think turbo not the best or something off.

Also your fuel quality have a lot to do with it as well.
Better fuel, better timing and more power
24.5 psi peak@5500RPM,then gradually reduced to 21psi@7000RPM

Navardi did a great job and would very much recommend working with him.
My situation may be a little complicated, and I will take some time to find out .
Because my wife drive the car for commuting, so I don't often drive this car .I drive this car mostly for drifting, yes it has LSD.
I have two other cars. 06 AVEO and 12 R8 V10.AVEO access is very flexible and there is no fear of collisions,I drive this car frequently.The R8 has wonderful sound that I drive occasionally.
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24.5 psi peak@5500RPM,then gradually reduced to 21psi@7000RPM

Navardi did a great job and would very much recommend working with him.
My situation may be a little complicated, and I will take some time to find out .
Because my wife drive the car for commuting, so I don't often drive this car .I drive this car mostly for drifting, yes it has LSD.
I have two other cars. 06 AVEO and 12 R8 V10.AVEO access is very flexible and there is no fear of collisions,I drive this car frequently.The R8 has wonderful sound that I drive occasionally.
At 24psi your wgdc is 94% while close to redline 20.6psi wgdc is 90%, I would think something off or just the turbo close to maxed out. I had a very minor boost leak and only noticeable at higher boost (at 20-25psi meeting target but close to 30psi boost was dropping off). Hope that helps you.
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24.5 psi peak@5500RPM,then gradually reduced to 21psi@7000RPM

Navardi did a great job and would very much recommend working with him.
My situation may be a little complicated, and I will take some time to find out .
Because my wife drive the car for commuting, so I don't often drive this car .I drive this car mostly for drifting, yes it has LSD.
I have two other cars. 06 AVEO and 12 R8 V10.AVEO access is very flexible and there is no fear of collisions,I drive this car frequently.The R8 has wonderful sound that I drive occasionally.
You have an LSD? What brand? I'm looking to get one too.
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You have an LSD? What brand? I'm looking to get one too.
CTK, is said to be an American brand? I'm not sure.
It's Multi clutch type, my firend has Quaife.
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At 24psi your wgdc is 94% while close to redline 20.6psi wgdc is 90%, I would think something off or just the turbo close to maxed out. I had a very minor boost leak and only noticeable at higher boost (at 20-25psi meeting target but close to 30psi boost was dropping off). Hope that helps you.
Thanks,do you have logs?How about your MASS FLOW?
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Thanks,do you have logs?How about your MASS FLOW?
I do have logs but my flow will be different from yours (video below has the details of initial issue).
I am b48 with bigger turbo.
Also it flows more than what the sensor reads.

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CTK, is said to be an American brand? I'm not sure.
It's Multi clutch type, my firend has Quaife.
Do you think i can get a link? Can't find it

Thanks
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Do you think i can get a link? Can't find it

Thanks
Sorry, I don't have link of CTK..I bought it from a friend.

https://www.quaife.co.uk/
Quaife's LSD is also great, it's Torsen differential, and it doesn't need to change oil.
However, F30 it is necessary to disassemble the differential for processing, or you can choose to replace the assembly
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I do have logs but my flow will be different from yours (video below has the details of initial issue).
I am b48 with bigger turbo.
Also it flows more than what the sensor reads.

I can't watch the video... youtube was blocked in my location

I've looked up some claims that Mass FLOW*10 roughly equals crankshaft horsepower.
I purchased an INJEN EVO air intake system to verify that the stock intake system was causing insufficient intake air
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