[blau3er]

My car only had one mic - on the drivers side (RHD car).

Sounds like you’ll need to access newTIS and work out where you’ve gone wrong with the wiring.

The functionality of the existing mic should be unaffected, as there are no changes required / made there. Simply the addition of the new mic for B&O.

[dragos2287]

Thanks @blau3er .
Will try by putting the old mic back on and then double check the new mic and wire. I guess I have to make another hole in the roof, or swipe it with the other old mic on the other side.

@truymenh
Where did you buy those illuminated grills from? They look spot on.

[NealfromNZ]

The Match range doesn’t have the 14 channels needed to do this build. Match also doesn’t by default have digital audio that B&O has or the active noise compensation and if added mixes the BMW audio channels down the stereo. PDC drops to left / right only. The B&O speakers including woofers that are better than most of the drop aftermarket options.

I believe B&O also has Dirac derived DSP maps.

Love how this install looks and is completely factory using factory components , yet an option that the audio option 3 series never got.

[NealfromNZ]

blau3er

Would you mind a question with the B&O system. Does it have two or three sound profiles ?
Eg

Profile 1 normal ( Nothing ticked )
profile 2 Studio ( ticked )
Profile 3 Expanded ( ticked )

Or is it just the two with Studio and Expanded ?

Just working on something at the moment with Idrive

[blau3er]

It only has two options.

After living with it for some time now, I use Studio for a better listening experience!

[NealfromNZ]

Perfect , thanks for replying. Context for the question is putting a feature request into a dsp / amp company to allow more that 2 maps to be used ( they have 4 slots ).

Was checking B&O mapping capability. Couldn’t tell if it was 2 or 3.

I’m guessing studio has less sound field processing so probably more hifi like .

[blau3er]

Originally Posted by NealfromNZ

Perfect , thanks for replying. Context for the question is putting a feature request into a dsp / amp company to allow more that 2 maps to be used ( they have 4 slots ).

Was checking B&O mapping capability. Couldn’t tell if it was 2 or 3.

I’m guessing studio has less sound field processing so probably more hifi like .

Studio mode, according to B&O, "produces a vivid sound stage similar to a recording studio".

Obviously that is Marketing BS - however the studio mode is so much clearer and defined across the whole range, and importantly for me, the bass is much tighter and less boomy.

For those who want "more" bass, expanded mode probably sounds like it has more bass, but it does not have the clarity of studio.

[Billfitz]

If they're being accurate studio sound replicates what the engineer listened to when the recording was mixed: two channel stereo plus subs.

[Superwofy]

blau3er

May I ask what DSP coding settings you went for in the end for the HU and AMP?

I've fitted this system too but so far struggle to make it sound right - albeit in a somewhat different cabin.

[blau3er]

Originally Posted by Superwofy

blau3er

May I ask what DSP coding settings you went for in the end for the HU and AMP?

I've fitted this system too but so far struggle to make it sound right - albeit in a somewhat different cabin.

I just left it alone and as such the DSP is set up for the car the amp came out of, which was a F06 M6 gran coupe. With B&O never being optioned on F3x cars, there isnt a "fix" for this as such.

HU is coded for B&O and and such has the studio and expanded modes, along with EQ settings, which I have played around a bit with. I find Studio the best.

What issues are you experiencing? I can't say I have felt that its not set up correctly (to my untrained ear anyway, before any sound engineers tell me otherwise!)

[NealfromNZ]

Thinking with the amp software you’d want to esys flash the B&O amp it with the smallest cabin option of the supported BMW models to get the DSPs time alignment and cabin gain adjustments closer to the dimensions of the F3x chassis.

EG , compare 5 series to others from a dimensional point of view and speaker placement. Ideally you wouldn’t want to run x5-x6 or 7 series software with their larger cabins.

Otherwise, it could be a case of tailoring your equaliser settings. There is a thread on bimmerpost Ecco system that had a sound engineer coming up with a shallow V shape across the EQ range. That might be to your liking.

Key for flashing would be to work out which amp software applies to which BMW model. Guessing some of the coders on here would be able to work that out.

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/com...x5-2015-suv-m/

https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/com...-5-2010-sedan/

[m4shifter]

Originally Posted by truymenh

I retrofitted b&o in my f30 one year ago, but i did a bit differently. I took original b&o wiring harness from f10 m5. But I did not use b&o speaker, I used all b&w speakers with 3 diamond speakers instead. Fully working without any errors, including ASD, ambient lighting

Looks really nice. Are the LED lights OEM or aftermarket?

[adnanazeem93]

Hey blau3er would you be able to send me the pdf document aswell please?

Also, do you know the part number of the MOST connector? I've tried looking everywhere on the internet but I'm struggling to find it

[blau3er]

Originally Posted by adnanazeem93

Hey blau3er would you be able to send me the pdf document aswell please?

Also, do you know the part number of the MOST connector? I've tried looking everywhere on the internet but I'm struggling to find it

Drop me a PM and I will give you my number for WhatsApp.

[BMWFanaticRob]

blau3er Totally impressed by the OEM style retrofit. Really, really amazing job. I'm about to do this for my F12 and I was wondering if you have part numbers, sources, etc. to help with the retrofit. My biggest struggle is the 32 pin connector for the tweeters. I'm not able to find the part number. Any other helpful info like connector part numbers, wiring sources, etc. would be really great. I'm looking to begin this now that the winter weather is behind us.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

[rlesko]

Awesome work blau3er , are you still sharing the pdf?

[Maciej@BimmerTech]

blau3er very cool retrofit. Insane and overdone, but very unique.

[f10andrii]

anyone wants to buy a F10 with this retrofit done already ?

[blau3er]

Originally Posted by rlesko

Awesome work blau3er , are you still sharing the pdf?

Yes, drop me a PM

[rlesko]

Thanks to blau3er for his generosity in composing and sharing the PDF guide. I am hopeful to undertake this retrofit in early 2026, except my vehicle only equipped with HiFi system.

Most notable difference between HiFi and HK as far as wiring is concerned is the addition of MOST connection at the amplifier. Since my car came from factory equipped with CIC + Combox, there is actually a MOST connection in the trunk. Since I've retrofitted NBT Evo with ATM, this MOST loop is now terminated and sitting unused. I believe I can utilize this connection to the new amplifier.

[RedErik]

blau3er Well done. I love how you went over the top and even sourced correctly colour coded cables. I'm working in this retrofit myself (actually helping out a friend with his F10 M5) and I'm really struggling to find the part number for that 32pin plug. I know it's been used in some other places as well, but I cannot find its number. In search of it I found your thread and I'm really hoping you could help out with that.

[rlesko]

Originally Posted by RedErik

blau3er Well done. I love how you went over the top and even sourced correctly colour coded cables. I'm working in this retrofit myself (actually helping out a friend with his F10 M5) and I'm really struggling to find the part number for that 32pin plug. I know it's been used in some other places as well, but I cannot find its number. In search of it I found your thread and I'm really hoping you could help out with that.

Do you mean this?

https://www.te.com/en/product-1326140-1.html

https://www.te.com/en/product-1326141-1.html

its a housing + terminal. I did a cursory google search with help of AI.