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I owned a 2009 E90 M3. I traded it in a year because I did not care for the low torque of the NA V8, the fuel bill was high, and I generally felt the car was over-rated.
Just my opinion, so all the V8 M3 fanboys don't need to get their pants in a knot....
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I don't know that I'll ever get this knot out of my pants that you just tied...
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If it's to keep long term, I would rock the e90 M3 24-7, 365 you feel me?! It's the last of an NA brees fa sho that's one of the hundred reasons why my S54B32 M Coupe ain't going nowhere yadidimean?! These turbocharged motors just don't sing like high revving NA motors do.
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Mine is a 2002 S54 M Coupe with the S54B32. BMW had issues with the rod bearings on this motor as well although the issue is blown out of proportion in my opinion. Much of it has to do with how the engine was treated, especially with thick weight 10w-60 when cold. I would say change them out as preventative maintenance if you do decide to get the M3. Also, people who stuck by the 15K OCIs were definitely not doing their engines any favors.
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Heart: M3. That glorious V8 sound!
Head: 335i. 8/10ths of the fun, better safety, ergonomics and operating costs. If you decide on 335i, I know of one that's been amazingly well take care of. https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=23644821 Good luck with whichever way you go! |
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That's why you buy a newer M3 with less miles and as few owners as possible... problem solved.
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Heart: M3 Head: 335 Initially I felt M3 was the unanimous decision but today the 335 "votes" are surging. In my head M3 has a narrow lead. |
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If you're not going to daily this car then the M3 is the obvious choice. But not all M3's are created equal when holding value though so keep that in mind (color combo, transmission, year (late model is better), options (ZCP will hold more value), mileage, # of owners, etc). Finding a clean E90 M3 with a manual transmission will be harder.
Just have a nice rainy day fund for repairs/maintenance and make sure to stay ahead of things. Although the main issues (rod bearings/throttle actuators) will need to be addressed you'll want to make sure you stay on top of bushings, inspections, and all the normal routine maintenance. 10w60 oil is more expensive (oil changes will require 8 quarts+filter and will be like $120 in parts alone) and tires can get eaten up quickly (are you gonna put cheapo tires or Michelin PSS or something quality).And remember that M3 parts are usually 2-3x the price. There's no doubt it's a more rewarding car but dont' let your heart get ahead of what the total cost of ownership (proper ownership) is. I sound like an old man now but that's my 2 cents. |
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The low end torque in a turbo car is addicting. I could only do an e90 if it was for track duty only. But for regular chugging around town I'd want to kill myself.
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I considered this question two years ago before I bought my 335.
I ended up passing on the M3 because the motor didn't do it for me. I want a car that has more available power in more spots for daily driving and the V8 just doesn't have that. It was also going to be several years older with less gas mileage. I also felt like I was more comfortable modding the 335 because the engine was already set up for forced induction. I haven't driven an M3 in a while, but with the suspension set up and LSD, I don't think I'm missing much. Obviously a modded car is different than a stock one, but I thought I'd give my perspective. Also, for what it's worth, it's hard to "invest" in cars. You're going to get a 335i for a good price because the used ones have depreciated already and there's really no way to know what the E9x M3 market will look like in the future.
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ZCP is the competition package on the E90. The easiest way to tell is by the wheels, and the ZCP has a half inch lower ride height. Those are the only visual cues that I can remember.
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Objectively speaking, I think it's pretty safe to say the F30 335i is a better car than the E90 M3.
I didn't grow up as a BMW enthusiast, so I don't have the nostalgia/heart for the M3 like a lot of people here do. It's a great car and will always have more history and pedigree than any 335i, and I can see why it would be a fun track car... but there are better purchases if you're looking for a street car. For all the same reasons mentioned in this thread (F30 has better technology, luxury/comfort features, safety, lower cost of ownership, and most importantly IMO the engine is much more practical for street use). The E90 M3 was the first BMW I ever drove, and I was mostly disappointed with the engine. It sounds better than the new M3 for sure, but I'd personally much rather have a turbo and the newer tech/interior/body. |
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