M Performance 335/435i Huge Price Drop

TheShadow · 06-14-2019, 03:48 PM

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IK6SPEED is actually one of the most helpful and knowledgeable people on this board. I have also called ECS tuning to confirm that they received a shipment of 33 M LSD's for autos. They will continue to receive them until they stop coming in. Different quantities at different times. Nothing is certain. So to answer your question, he is playing the role that SOME people don't play on here, which is helping people to the best of his abilities

That's fine, and I have absolutely no beef with that. If his comments seemed normal to you, that's great. But in our last exchange he was quoting exact numbers. Now there are supposedly XX units available. I think I'm allowed to ask for full disclosure here.

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Originally Posted by dbright03

This was a huge thread that I originally posted because I noticed a price drop sometime back in May. When supplies ran out, people late to the game were bummed. IK6SPEED is just passing along the good news that there are more out there for those that missed out. A 75% price drop in BMW OEM M Performance part wound't have any financial gain for anyone but the forum members.

Of course, but please see my comment above.

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Honestly, at least 5 members have messaged me as soon as they purchased their units and were told remaining amounts that the math never added up.

I don't honestly think ECS knows what they have.

So ECS doesn't know what they have, but you just told us last night what they have. I'm confused.

I simply came into this thread stating that it was NOT IMPOSSIBLE to still purchase them. And you decided to chime in to the contrary. Lo and behold, there are some available, which you are promoting, that are marked up.

Do I need to draw a picture?

THE MARK UP BY ECS WASNT A MARK UP. IT WAS A PRICING ERROR THAT OCCURED. The current price is what it was supposed to originally be. IT IS STILL possible to buy. Like I said I called and literally said they have a shipment of 3x. Why don't you call and find out for yourself? You can answer all your own questions.

Yep. This was the price I was quoted 2 weeks ago. The pricing error was not reflecting the shipping cost from Germany.

Everyone eventually figured that out. I'm not really concerned about the availability, and never was. That was other people lol.

I'm just playing devils advocate to the info "others" were providing.

Were all just trying to find and share as much info as possibly from sources we have access to. Nothing more.

T5viggen · 06-14-2019, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HondaGoneRogue

Yep. This was the price I was quoted 2 weeks ago. The pricing error was not reflecting the shipping cost from Germany.

Everyone eventually figured that out. I'm not really concerned about the availability, and never was. That was other people lol.

I'm just playing devils advocate to the info "others" were providing.

So some are paying $455 but plus costs, its about $640. I bought mine initially when the price first dropped from ECS and payed the same total after tax/shipping. So it looks like it's a wash.

Side note, here is what it looks like installed...wow it looks like a...rear diff...

T5viggen · 06-14-2019, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

And you were expecting it to look different

Does a 328i and a 335i look different from the front? It's what is underneath that counts.

Even my Quaife and OEM BMW do not look different as it's in a BMW pumpkin.

Not at all, but people love pictures.

Again more beer induced sarcasm. I'm done posting for the night.

Joeschmoe88 · 06-15-2019, 09:31 AM

Are these worth getting for an X-Drive?

IK6SPEED · 06-19-2019, 05:30 PM

I am hearing that quite a few LSDs shipped out by ECS late last week were damaged and leaking fluid all over the place.

Might want to refuse shipment if your box comes in looking trashed and soaked in fluid.

More damaged here

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24926567

And more pics from other posters

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24925476

neonnblack · 06-29-2019, 04:16 PM

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24972120

realsport · 07-25-2019, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

I am hearing that quite a few LSDs shipped out by ECS late last week were damaged and leaking fluid all over the place.

Might want to refuse shipment if your box comes in looking trashed and soaked in fluid.

More damaged here

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24926567

And more pics from other posters

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24925476

So Finally, What is your opinion to fit on the f30 328i(3.15)?
I have the f30 328i(not xdrive)-2016.
I wanna listen your reply about half shaft size issue.
Could u tell me?

I'm considering to purchase this MP LSD.

IK6SPEED · 07-25-2019, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

I am hearing that quite a few LSDs shipped out by ECS late last week were damaged and leaking fluid all over the place.

Might want to refuse shipment if your box comes in looking trashed and soaked in fluid.

More damaged here

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24926567

And more pics from other posters

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24925476

So Finally, What is your opinion to fit on the f30 328i(3.15)?
I have the f30 328i(not xdrive)-2016.
I wanna listen your reply about half shaft size issue.
Could u tell me?

I'm considering to purchase this MP LSD.

As I've said before, that's not an issue.

Others tried to install on a manual transmission and I have stated from the beginning I had my doubts - and those are the posters with size issues.

MikeK37 · 07-25-2019, 12:08 PM

Hi new to forum... thanks for photo, did you do the install yourself? If so, how would rate the difficulty? What would say is the biggest difference you notice after installing.

Thanks
Mike

imperfectluck · 07-29-2019, 09:55 PM

@MikeK37 The LSD is a pretty involving job from what I've read with the special tool unless you're able to pry out the stock open diff, I would suggest a shop would be a better bet for this install but that's just my opinion of course. Costed me $600 from my local shop which was higher than I thought it would be but I did get the LSD for $574 shipped so I didn't really mind what the labor cost came up to as I got my LSD from BMW of Monterey while ECS had their prices in the $600+ range.

After breaking her in these past few weeks, I'll never get a car without a mechanical diff as it made more than a subtle difference in day to day driving I feel it working with my driving style.

IK6SPEED · 08-03-2019, 11:48 AM

ECS sold out of their stock and admitted that their large "backordered" is not happening.

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...33107555607kt/

mbanks21 · 08-03-2019, 05:51 PM

Yay I can sell mine now!

ronanz · 08-03-2019, 06:09 PM

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Yay I can sell mine now!

LOL!

Anyone near SW US doing the same thing...let me know

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TheShadow · 08-03-2019, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ronanz

LOL!

Anyone near SW US doing the same thing...let me know

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nvm

Blocke · 08-05-2019, 01:04 PM

Question for those that have had theirs installed: What did you pay for labor?
Based on my research, I think BMW book says 2.5 hours labor for this. Understanding most dealers will pad that a bit. The first install quote I got from a BMW dealer was $945 labor which seems on the extreme high end of the spectrum.

Is $3-500 a reasonable average to shoot for as I get quotes?

Jvac · 08-05-2019, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Blocke

Question for those that have had theirs installed: What did you pay for labor?
Based on my research, I think BMW book says 2.5 hours labor for this. Understanding most dealers will pad that a bit. The first install quote I got from a BMW dealer was $945 labor which seems on the extreme high end of the spectrum.

Is $3-500 a reasonable average to shoot for as I get quotes?

It cost me about 550 for the labor in Dallas TX. I could have saved ~100 at an indy shop but they weren't sure if they had the right tools and sounded a little fuzzy about the job. since my car is still under the original warranty I decided to go with the dealer which extends the warranty to any OEM installed parts like the LSD.
When you're getting quotes from the dealership, be sure to provide the part number for the diff so they know what to quote. The service adviser I first talked to had no clue about these things. He finds a quote for 'replace rear differential' in the computer and tells me it's going to be like 1100 for that. I'm guessing that was related to the stock diff, maybe there's additional coding or parts on that job.
With the part # for the m performance diff they can find the exact job in ISTA or whatever they use and it should be 2.5 hrs.

mbanks21 · 08-05-2019, 01:48 PM

My indy quoted me $350 before realizing it won't fit

Blocke · 08-05-2019, 02:03 PM

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My indy quoted me $350 before realizing it won't fit

Looking to sell the LSD then? BMW Monterey just cancelled my order.

mbanks21 · 08-05-2019, 02:51 PM

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Looking to sell the LSD then? BMW Monterey just cancelled my order.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe I am but not for $600 I guarantee that!

Blocke · 08-05-2019, 03:24 PM

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Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe I am but not for $600 I guarantee that!

LOL no worries. I actually just sourced one. Once I get shipping confirmation I'll spill the beans. Don't want to curse a second order.

XutvJet · 08-05-2019, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Blocke

Question for those that have had theirs installed: What did you pay for labor?
Based on my research, I think BMW book says 2.5 hours labor for this. Understanding most dealers will pad that a bit. The first install quote I got from a BMW dealer was $945 labor which seems on the extreme high end of the spectrum.

Is $3-500 a reasonable average to shoot for as I get quotes?

2.5 hours is BMW's warranty/port install hourly rate. The BMW book time outside of warranty/port work for an LSD install is 3.5 hours. That is what I was charged and what many others were charged for LSD installs on their M235s at BMW dealers. At Kansas City rates, the install of my LSD with tax and one pint of BMW LSD fluid was around $500. I wouldn't be surprised that a BMW dealer in CA will charge north of $700 for the same work as the rates are much higher in CA.

milr · 08-05-2019, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Blocke

Question for those that have had theirs installed: What did you pay for labor?
Based on my research, I think BMW book says 2.5 hours labor for this. Understanding most dealers will pad that a bit. The first install quote I got from a BMW dealer was $945 labor which seems on the extreme high end of the spectrum.

Is $3-500 a reasonable average to shoot for as I get quotes?

It cost me around 600 for the install at my local dealership. Hopefully that LSD comes through for you, it's a great upgrade

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