03-02-2021, 02:28 PM | #1 |
New Member
6
Rep 29
Posts |
Brake Upgrade
Hello all f30 members. I just traded in my e90 and got a 2015 328i xDrive with the m sport pack. My brake pads and rotors are due for service soon. I am looking to do an oem plus upgrade. I was thinking about getting the m performance brake kit but then I realized that the m3 brakes might fit. I will be tracking my car for fun so either would be a huge upgrade. If I were to go for m3 would it be that much more money? I know that the m performance would definitely be enough but just want a second opinion from fellow members.
|
03-02-2021, 03:02 PM | #2 | |
Lieutenant Colonel
1127
Rep 1,508
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-02-2021, 03:27 PM | #3 | |
I want to drive a Zamboni
1131
Rep 5,557
Posts
Drives: 13 E93 M3 18 F80 M3 16 K71
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Monte Sereno, CA
|
Quote:
https://www.getbmwparts.com/c-brakes-87
__________________
18 F80 Imola Red 6MT
16 K71 F800GT Montego Blue 13 E93 M3 Melbourne Red 2000 E46,2006 E90,09 E82,13 E93 328i,14 F30 335i,18 F80 M3 My next vehicle would be a Zamboni |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2021, 09:09 AM | #4 | |
Major
436
Rep 1,119
Posts
Drives: 2015 BMW 435i Xdrive MSport
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Greater Philadelphia
|
Quote:
https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...bC1sNi1nYXM%3D
__________________
2015 435i Xdrive (Klaus)
Stanced 8th Gen Honda Civic (The daily) |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2021, 10:16 AM | #6 |
Lieutenant Colonel
1127
Rep 1,508
Posts |
You mentioned in your first post that you wanted to do an oem plus upgrade, and while I have no idea what that is, you could also do an m sport brake upgrade with blue calipers (you can have them redone any color) and 340/345 front/rear rotors. Cheaper than m perf and only slightly different.
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2021, 10:46 AM | #7 |
Private First Class
156
Rep 178
Posts |
I am about to install the m-sport brakes. Is it only the m-performance brakes that needs coding? Because the guy I bought mine from insisted that I did not need to code them.
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2021, 01:24 PM | #8 |
Lieutenant Colonel
1127
Rep 1,508
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2021, 02:57 PM | #9 |
Private First Class
156
Rep 178
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2021, 03:02 PM | #10 |
Lieutenant Colonel
1127
Rep 1,508
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2021, 05:20 PM | #11 |
Major
473
Rep 1,060
Posts |
Take a picture of your front calipers from now. If you have the grey 4 pot Brembos you have the factory 340mm front rotors. You WONT get the car fast or hot enough to overcook those brakes with proper pads + vented rotors. The M3/m4 calipers would be for show.
Lots of threads on this around if you look in the suspension/brakes section 😀
__________________
MY13: TTE400 Stage 2 turbo.
e80 tune by Navardi Tuned. 380 whp/360 wheel torque stock block Build Thread: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1742413 IG + YT: Sqwin_n20 |
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2021, 06:54 PM | #12 | |
Lieutenant Colonel
1127
Rep 1,508
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
1
frchdragon338.00 |
03-03-2021, 07:07 PM | #13 |
Major
473
Rep 1,060
Posts |
They said for track. If you track the car hard enough the colored calipers turn green slowly transitioning into a burnt orange.
__________________
MY13: TTE400 Stage 2 turbo.
e80 tune by Navardi Tuned. 380 whp/360 wheel torque stock block Build Thread: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1742413 IG + YT: Sqwin_n20 |
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2021, 07:09 PM | #14 |
Lieutenant Colonel
991
Rep 1,934
Posts |
M3/4 calipers == M performance Calipers == M sport 370mm calipers.
With proper pads and fluid the 340mm are just as capable.
__________________
F30 335iX | Remus Axleback | Fabspeed Catted DP | VRSF Comp IC | 18X9 ET35 19lb MT1 | 255/40/18 ECS | Ohlins RT Millway Street | Millway Control Arm Bushings | Turner Endlinks | TMH 75mm 14x1.5 Studs | BMW MPerf LSD | XDelete | Pipercross Filter | MHD Stg2 93
|
Appreciate
1
frchdragon338.00 |
03-03-2021, 08:47 PM | #15 |
Lieutenant Colonel
1127
Rep 1,508
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-04-2021, 12:21 AM | #16 | |
Major General
4528
Rep 5,392
Posts
Drives: 2015 BMW 335i x-Drive Auto
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: New Jersey/Philadelphia
|
Quote:
But if you are upgrading from either of the front single piston calipers (312mm or 330mm fronts) to either of the Brembo front calipers, then your car will need to be coded for the higher front/rear brake bias. |
|
Appreciate
1
Sigge155.50 |
03-04-2021, 12:51 AM | #17 | |
Major General
4528
Rep 5,392
Posts
Drives: 2015 BMW 335i x-Drive Auto
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: New Jersey/Philadelphia
|
Quote:
M3/M4 brakes use the exact same front Brembo 4-piston calipers but the mounting points on the M cars are different so they mount over 380mm x 30mm rotors. While the F3x cars must use 370mm x 30mm front rotors. Both use the same rear Brembo 2-piston calipers over 345mm x 24mm rotors. On the F3x, M Performance and M Sport brakes use the exact same front 370/rear 345 calipers. On MP they come in red, orange or yellow. On MS, they come in blue. But there is another caveat. On lower end models like the 328i, its M Sport Brakes use a front 4-piston Brembo that only fits over a 340mm x 30mm rotor, along with the Brembo 2-piston 345mm brakes. They are painted blue. So you will find two blue front Brembo calipers that appear identical but they are not. The larger one has a stretched casting. The back of one in raised lettering says "340" and the other says "370/380". Often guys will try to get a higher price for M3 brakes or for M Performance brakes. They are literally all the same as long as the back of the front caliper says "370/380" and the rear says "345". Typically fronts cost $450-$600 depending on condition and rears cost $350-$500 depending on condition. On the street you won't notice a difference between F370/R345 and F340/R345 caliper sets. But on a track with repeated high speed braking the front 370mm rotors have greater mass so they are less prone to brake fade than the 340mm front rotors. Pads are the most important component. On the street, Hawk 5.0 pads have superior bite, instant warm up and light dust that washes right off. Change your rubber brake hoses to stainless steel brake lines for more solid brake pedal feel. Hope this helps! |
|
03-04-2021, 06:28 AM | #19 |
Brigadier General
1558
Rep 4,109
Posts
Drives: BMW M3
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Blue Bell, PA
|
The M Sport/Performance brakes look great, they can be worth buying solely for that reason.
However, I'll dissent on the need to upgrade brakes for the track if you're a beginner or intermediate track driver. The M Sport/Performance brakes will handle heat better for the stated reasons, but that is counter intuitive for driver education since it can mask inefficient or excessive braking. The stock brakes will be much more communicative in that regard. Essentially, the stock brakes will more readily tell you if you're working them too hard. For the track, replace the rotors and pads if needed - OEM rotors and pads are perfectly fine for the track - and add high-temp fluid. Charles
__________________
2024 BMW M3 Sedan Frozen Pure Grey II/Fjord Blue, 6MT
Past: 2021 Z4 M40i Frozen Grey II/Black Alcantara | 2017 F30 340i Mineral Gray/Coral Red, 6MT | 2011 E92 335i Le Mans Blue/Black, 6MT |
Appreciate
2
Catrachicano5.50 paulymu62.50 |
03-04-2021, 11:43 AM | #20 |
Lieutenant Colonel
991
Rep 1,934
Posts |
Hence the 370mm indication next to msport
__________________
F30 335iX | Remus Axleback | Fabspeed Catted DP | VRSF Comp IC | 18X9 ET35 19lb MT1 | 255/40/18 ECS | Ohlins RT Millway Street | Millway Control Arm Bushings | Turner Endlinks | TMH 75mm 14x1.5 Studs | BMW MPerf LSD | XDelete | Pipercross Filter | MHD Stg2 93
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-04-2021, 11:47 AM | #21 | ||
Lieutenant Colonel
991
Rep 1,934
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
F30 335iX | Remus Axleback | Fabspeed Catted DP | VRSF Comp IC | 18X9 ET35 19lb MT1 | 255/40/18 ECS | Ohlins RT Millway Street | Millway Control Arm Bushings | Turner Endlinks | TMH 75mm 14x1.5 Studs | BMW MPerf LSD | XDelete | Pipercross Filter | MHD Stg2 93
|
||
03-04-2021, 12:15 PM | #22 |
Lieutenant Colonel
1127
Rep 1,508
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|