[SC_B5X]

Originally Posted by Sleeper340i

Supreme my pump is about 70 percent ethanol as well right now so that's good to know it definitely can't handle. So E50 is the way to good then seems like from everyone's input?

Also quick question a little topic, if you guys use containers to bring ethanol home from far away what brand or which ones would you recommend? I have something with an eagle on it and it's red but it's a pain in the ass lifting a 5 gal jug at shoulder height at a certain angle for a few minutes lol and it spills a bit.

I personally use a VP 3 Gallon Jug when I go up to Charlotte (2 hours away) to go racing, the jug itself fits perfectly in the backseat and doesn't move if you put the seat belt through the handle.

NOTE: When you put the jug together don't screw the spout on too tight, I made this mistake and it broke off (not sure if defective or bad quality, but figured i'd save you from having to get amazon to warranty it).

https://www.amazon.com/VP-Racing-Fue...s%2C144&sr=8-5

[Sleeper340i]

Originally Posted by SC_B5X

I personally use a VP 3 Gallon Jug when I go up to Charlotte (2 hours away) to go racing, the jug itself fits perfectly in the backseat and doesn't move if you put the seat belt through the handle.

NOTE: When you put the jug together don't screw the spout on too tight, I made this mistake and it broke off (not sure if defective or bad quality, but figured i'd save you from having to get amazon to warranty it).

https://www.amazon.com/VP-Racing-Fue...144&sr=8-5

Hell yeah, I'll definitely try these out. Do you use the filler hose or just pour it straight from the jug?

[ronanz]

Originally Posted by Sleeper340i

Hell yeah, I'll definitely try these out. Do you use the filler hose or just pour it straight from the jug?

I have 3 5gal VP jugs, use the filler hose with the installed particle screen found HERE .

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[kern417]

Originally Posted by SC_B5X

Stock HPFP barely supports anything over E30 unless you turn down the boost or are running it lean.

The B58TU (Supra Pump) could probably support full E85 on the stock turbo if I had to guess, my friend is currently on E50 maxing out his turbo and there are no rail pressure dips at all.

Honestly no one will be able to give you a definitive answer, because no one has really done it. On this platform you just have to experiment and try things, or we'll all just sit around asking the same questions with no answer.

I'm going to try it next week. I just need to test my station's ethanol % to make sure it didn't drop over winter. Usually it tests E82.

I know you saw F80Paul's E50 map on stock hpfp. I'm curious to see what AFRs are targetting with the Supra pump and higher percentages. But he tuned that E85 supra on Babayaga's channel that's balls to the wall fast. I think we can make it work. Especially if i'm not pushing 18+ psi.

20psi and 16* of timing is a lot at 5000rpm

[Supr3me]

Originally Posted by Sleeper340i

Supreme my pump is about 70 percent ethanol as well right now so that's good to know it definitely can't handle. So E50 is the way to good then seems like from everyone's input?

Yeah E50 has been solid as a brick for fuel pressure on the Supra pump and makes big power. The only reason I even played with E70 was to make filling up simpler, less math etc.

[B58togo]

Originally Posted by Sleeper340i

Supreme my pump is about 70 percent ethanol as well right now so that's good to know it definitely can't handle. So E50 is the way to good then seems like from everyone's input?

Also quick question a little topic, if you guys use containers to bring ethanol home from far away what brand or which ones would you recommend? I have something with an eagle on it and it's red but it's a pain in the ass lifting a 5 gal jug at shoulder height at a certain angle for a few minutes lol and it spills a bit.

I bought a dozen VP Racing, 5 gallon jugs last August. No issues at all.

[Sleeper340i]

Originally Posted by Sµpreme

Yeah E50 has been solid as a brick for fuel pressure on the Supra pump and makes big power. The only reason I even played with E70 was to make filling up simpler, less math etc.

Thanks! That's good to know. Looks like E50 it is when the weather starts getting better

[Sleeper340i]

Thanks for the input y'all. Ended up getting the 5G jugs that comes with the filler hose. Time to
grow this jug collection

[Tkent818]

Originally Posted by Sleeper340i

Supreme my pump is about 70 percent ethanol as well right now so that's good to know it definitely can't handle. So E50 is the way to good then seems like from everyone's input?

Also quick question a little topic, if you guys use containers to bring ethanol home from far away what brand or which ones would you recommend? I have something with an eagle on it and it's red but it's a pain in the ass lifting a 5 gal jug at shoulder height at a certain angle for a few minutes lol and it spills a bit.

Workout more

[SC_B5X]

Originally Posted by kern417

I'm going to try it next week. I just need to test my station's ethanol % to make sure it didn't drop over winter. Usually it tests E82.

I know you saw F80Paul's E50 map on stock hpfp. I'm curious to see what AFRs are targetting with the Supra pump and higher percentages. But he tuned that E85 supra on Babayaga's channel that's balls to the wall fast. I think we can make it work. Especially if i'm not pushing 18+ psi.

20psi and 16* of timing is a lot at 5000rpm

I wish you the best and i'm excited to see the results! Just keep an eye on AFR's and make sure it doesn't get too lean

I think I did see the E50 map on stock HPFP. If I remember correctly it was running pretty lean and on lower boost to keep the HPFP from crashing. I personally don't understand peoples obsession with running higher E mixes if you have to turn down the power to keep it from crashing.

[kern417]

Originally Posted by SC_B5X

I wish you the best and i'm excited to see the results! Just keep an eye on AFR's and make sure it doesn't get too lean

I think I did see the E50 map on stock HPFP. If I remember correctly it was running pretty lean and on lower boost to keep the HPFP from crashing. I personally don't understand peoples obsession with running higher E mixes if you have to turn down the power to keep it from crashing.

Just ease of use for me. I'm not interested in swiping my card twice every time i fill up. My ethanol quality is high and the next step i'll take is port injection over a bigger fuel pump. If we can make it work at 13.2AFR or less, I'll be satisfied.

Hopefully this year they release flexfuel support and we can stop worrying about it.

[SC_B5X]

Originally Posted by kern417

Just ease of use for me. I'm not interested in swiping my card twice every time i fill up. My ethanol quality is high and the next step i'll take is port injection over a bigger fuel pump. If we can make it work at 13.2AFR or less, I'll be satisfied.

Hopefully this year they release flexfuel support and we can stop worrying about it.

Flex fuel support would be lovely.

I'd personally try to get the AFR's somewhere around 12.8 or less. I noticed when my AFR's were in the 13's the plugs were showing signs of running lean.

Port injection would be neat, Jaime has apparently had good luck running E50 on Fuel It's CPI kit (stock HPFP) with his Big Boost Stage 4 kit.

[kern417]

Originally Posted by SC_B5X

Flex fuel support would be lovely.

I'd personally try to get the AFR's somewhere around 12.8 or less. I noticed when my AFR's were in the 13's the plugs were showing signs of running lean.

Port injection would be neat, Jaime has apparently had good luck running E50 on Fuel It's CPI kit (stock HPFP) with his Big Boost Stage 4 kit.

Yep, that's the direction I was going until I got the fuel pump for cheap. I play richboi games but in reality this is me.

[SC_B5X]

Originally Posted by kern417

Yep, that's the direction I was going until I got the fuel pump for cheap. I play richboi games but in reality this is me.

Hahaha I feel this. I'm starting to pinch pennies as i'm about to open a business. Half regret buying the turbo, but i've already made half the cost back from money races so who cares

[ilkthat]

Originally Posted by Sµpreme

Yeah E50 has been solid as a brick for fuel pressure on the Supra pump and makes big power. The only reason I even played with E70 was to make filling up simpler, less math etc.

How much are you selling your Supra pump for I have a cpi kit currently and cpi kit running around 18-20 psi wirh 12-13 afrs I wonder what my car would be capable with having your Supra pump as well in my b58 340i
Here are some clips
https://youtu.be/2mfpxq6CLYM
https://youtu.be/mp9gW91NtMY
This is e50 custom tune with wedge performance and jb4 map 4 with wedge performance back end flash cpi kit and xhp stage 3 flash

[Supr3me]

Originally Posted by ilkthat

How much are you selling your Supra pump for I have a cpi kit currently and cpi kit running around 18-20 psi wirh 12-13 afrs I wonder what my car would be capable with having your Supra pump as well in my b58 340i
Here are some clips

This is e50 custom tune with wedge performance and jb4 map 4 with wedge performance back end flash cpi kit and xhp stage 3 flash

DM'd.

Great clips!

[kern417]

Originally Posted by ilkthat

How much are you selling your Supra pump for I have a cpi kit currently and cpi kit running around 18-20 psi wirh 12-13 afrs I wonder what my car would be capable with having your Supra pump as well in my b58 340i

You've caught the bug you were pretty hesitant to jump in at first and now you want all the fueling

GL with your build. I bet you max out the turbo for sure.

[Aldor27]

Has anyone found a way to reclock any of the HPFP to the orientation of the 1st gen HPFP?

[lonewolfB58]

So overall what HPFP do you think would be best to pair with Big Boost Stage 3 Turbo kit? I was aiming toward the Dorche Stage 2 but I’m kind of waiting to pull the trigger until I am sure! Was planing to run 93 pump gas first then move into some E85 What’s your thoughts?

[SC_B5X]

Originally Posted by lonewolfB58

So overall what HPFP do you think would be best to pair with Big Boost Stage 3 Turbo kit? I was aiming toward the Dorche Stage 2 but I’m kind of waiting to pull the trigger until I am sure! Was planing to run 93 pump gas first then move into some E85 What’s your thoughts?

I have the DE Stage 2 with the Pure 800 running 24psi currently and have no rail pressure drops yet, and i'm on E50. I'd highly recommend Dorch's pumps. If you plan to go E85 in the future just pull the trigger on the Stage 2 so you don't have to worry about upgrading it again.

[lonewolfB58]

Yeah I’ve seen you before, Your car moves forsure! I’m thinking because I know it’s not all plug & play... Like you can’t just install the turbo/hpfp BM3, Turn it on & take off from there, or can you? Who does the adjustments on setting boost psi and making sure you don’t run
lean!? I’m kinda new to the major bolt-on upgrades. So I’m a little curious!

[Supr3me]

Originally Posted by lonewolfB58

Yeah I’ve seen you before, Your car moves forsure! I’m thinking because I know it’s not all plug & play... Like you can’t just install the turbo/hpfp BM3, Turn it on & take off from there, or can you? Who does the adjustments on setting boost psi and making sure you don’t run
lean!? I’m kinda new to the major bolt-on upgrades. So I’m a little curious!

You'll need a custom tune by a performance tuning shop for an upgraded turbo. The shop you work with is up to you, but depends on what flash tune you're running because most tuners have a preferred platform they work with. So SC_B5X and myself work with Wedge Performance out of Oregon because they use the MHD platform. But if you have a BM3 or something else, you'll want to find a tuner that uses that platform.

I see you called out BM3 in your post, do you have that flash installed now?

Good luck, I'm excited to see your build!