Dorch Engineering HPFP

aps · 02-19-2020, 04:54 PM

couldn't pass it up at this price - I jumped in for a stage 1

ZM2 · 02-19-2020, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aps

couldn't pass it up at this price - I jumped in for a stage 1

My rough math tells me Stage 1 is good for 450-475whp on E45-50 all year round.

Which will be plenty for me bc I doubt there’s anyway I can keep all my temps in check running more than that kind of power during 30-45min track sessions during the middle of summer.

Everyone getting all these new HPFP’s is like a new chapter for the N55!

n55david · 02-19-2020, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZM2

My rough math tells me Stage 1 is good for 450-475whp on E45-50 all year round.

Which will be plenty for me bc I doubt there’s anyway I can keep all my temps in check running more than that kind of power during 30-45min track sessions during the middle of summer.

Everyone getting all these new HPFP’s is like a new chapter for the N55!

Id be surprised if thats all you can get from it tbh.

ZM2 · 02-19-2020, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phantom10R

Id be surprised if thats all you can get from it tbh.

Yeah, sticking on the conservative side bc I need it to hold up for 45min on a 95-100F summer track day. IAT management is going to be key with the added power.

And, I just got some very timely feedback from Wagner regarding IAT management: https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1694925

ronanz · 02-21-2020, 02:02 PM

Logged my first revision with CaryTheLabelGuy (JordanTuning) last night on a "closed track". Although I won't post my log details quite yet (this is not a “JordanTuned” Thread), I can definitely state the Dorch Engineering HPFP is W E L L worth the hype and money!!

ALL pulls were on same log....back...to...back...to...back...to...back

FUEL: Shittiest possible 91oct

At 100% Throttle (mashed to floor):

1st Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2500 - 6626
HPFP PSI: 2904 - 2920
MPH: 31 - 75

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5977 - 6681
HPFP PSI: 2740 - 2892
MPH: 79 - 96

2nd Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2588 - 6541
HPFP PSI: 2619 - 2802
MPH: 29 - 78

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5770 - 6546
HPFP PSI: 2819 - 2906
MPH: 82 - 94

3rd Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2731 - 6724
HPFP PSI: 2909 - 2935
MPH: 31 - 76

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5923 - 6668
HPFP PSI: 2697 - 2864
MPH: 80 - 98

4th Gear Pull into Speed Pull

4th Gear
RPM: 2251 - 6518
HPFP PSI: 2891- 2925
MPH: 32 - 93

Shifted to 5th Gear:
RPM: 5590 - 6504
HPFP PSI: 2717 - 2902
MPH: 97 - 121

Shifted to 6th Gear:
RPM: 5593 - 5564 (point I let off)
HPFP PSI: 2756 - 2889
MPH: 123 - 134

For those who plan on keeping the car. I can’t stress enough how important an LSD is!! At no point did I ever feel the car oversteer (kick the backend out). Loosing traction propelled me straight and forward ..

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ZM2 · 02-21-2020, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronanz

Logged my first revision with CaryTheLabelGuy (JordanTuning) last night on a "closed track". Although I won't post my log details quite yet (this is not a “JordanTuned” Thread), I can definitely state the Dorch Engineering HPFP is W E L L worth the hype and money!!

ALL pulls were on same log....back...to...back...to...back...to...back

At 100% Throttle (mashed to floor):

1st Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2500 - 6626
HPFP PSI: 2904 - 2920
MPH: 31 - 75

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5977 - 6681
HPFP PSI: 2740 - 2892
MPH: 79 - 96

2nd Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2588 - 6541
HPFP PSI: 2619 - 2802
MPH: 29 - 78

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5770 - 6546
HPFP PSI: 2819 - 2906
MPH: 82 - 94

3rd Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2731 - 6724
HPFP PSI: 2909 - 2935
MPH: 31 - 76

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5923 - 6668
HPFP PSI: 2697 - 2864
MPH: 80 - 98

4th Gear Pull into Speed Pull

4th Gear
RPM: 2251 - 6518
HPFP PSI: 2891- 2925
MPH: 32 - 93

Shifted to 5th Gear:
RPM: 5590 - 6504
HPFP PSI: 2717 - 2902
MPH: 97 - 121

Shifted to 6th Gear:
RPM: 5593 - 5564 (point I let off)
HPFP PSI: 2756 - 2889
MPH: 123 - 134

For those who plan on keeping the car. I can’t stress enough how important an LSD is!! At no point did I ever feel the car oversteer (kick the backend out). Loosing traction propelled me straight and forward ..

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Nice!

Hey, is the Dorch pump any louder than stock?

cjlane · 02-21-2020, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronanz

Logged my first revision with CaryTheLabelGuy (JordanTuning) last night on a "closed track". Although I won't post my log details quite yet (this is not a “JordanTuned” Thread), I can definitely state the Dorch Engineering HPFP is W E L L worth the hype and money!!

ALL pulls were on same log....back...to...back...to...back...to...back

At 100% Throttle (mashed to floor):

1st Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2500 - 6626
HPFP PSI: 2904 - 2920
MPH: 31 - 75

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5977 - 6681
HPFP PSI: 2740 - 2892
MPH: 79 - 96

2nd Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2588 - 6541
HPFP PSI: 2619 - 2802
MPH: 29 - 78

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5770 - 6546
HPFP PSI: 2819 - 2906
MPH: 82 - 94

3rd Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2731 - 6724
HPFP PSI: 2909 - 2935
MPH: 31 - 76

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5923 - 6668
HPFP PSI: 2697 - 2864
MPH: 80 - 98

4th Gear Pull into Speed Pull

4th Gear
RPM: 2251 - 6518
HPFP PSI: 2891- 2925
MPH: 32 - 93

Shifted to 5th Gear:
RPM: 5590 - 6504
HPFP PSI: 2717 - 2902
MPH: 97 - 121

Shifted to 6th Gear:
RPM: 5593 - 5564 (point I let off)
HPFP PSI: 2756 - 2889
MPH: 123 - 134

For those who plan on keeping the car. I can’t stress enough how important an LSD is!! At no point did I ever feel the car oversteer (kick the backend out). Loosing traction propelled me straight and forward ..

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Thats a good result! How much boost are you running right now and what fuel?

GPM · 02-21-2020, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronanz

Dropped her off this morning....I’d say she’s in pretty good company!

Dorch S2 pump and items listed in Post #2 will be done by tomorrow

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Who did you choose to do the install. And, since it sounds like your first time there, what were your impressions.

Thanks

ronanz · 02-21-2020, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjlane

Thats a good result! How much boost are you running right now and what fuel?

Capped at 17psi to start. Revision I just received will start increasing boost.

Starting with 91oct (shittiest possible octane as well), then when map is complete, we'll start on a e50 map.....

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ronanz · 02-21-2020, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZM2

Nice!

Hey, is the Dorch pump any louder than stock?

Hmm...you know, I'm not sure...haven't really paid attention. I'll listen tonight, but I'd imagine it'd have to be.

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Munchi435i · 02-21-2020, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronanz

Capped at 17psi to start. Revision I just received will start increasing boost.

Starting with 91oct (shittiest possible octane as well), then when map is complete, we'll start on a e50 map.....

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Please start a thread with your logs for everyone to benefit from!!

Great to hear this new pump is showing results!!!

mcintoshf30 · 02-21-2020, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronanz

Logged my first revision with CaryTheLabelGuy (JordanTuning) last night on a "closed track". Although I won't post my log details quite yet (this is not a “JordanTuned” Thread), I can definitely state the Dorch Engineering HPFP is W E L L worth the hype and money!!

ALL pulls were on same log....back...to...back...to...back...to...back

[SIZE="2"]At 100% Throttle (mashed to floor):[/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]1st Pull[/SIZE]

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2500 - 6626
HPFP PSI: 2904 - 2920
MPH: 31 - 75

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5977 - 6681
HPFP PSI: 2740 - 2892
MPH: 79 - 96

[SIZE="3"]2nd Pull[/SIZE]

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2588 - 6541
HPFP PSI: 2619 - 2802
MPH: 29 - 78

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5770 - 6546
HPFP PSI: 2819 - 2906
MPH: 82 - 94

[SIZE="3"]3rd Pull[/SIZE]

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2731 - 6724
HPFP PSI: 2909 - 2935
MPH: 31 - 76

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5923 - 6668
HPFP PSI: 2697 - 2864
MPH: 80 - 98

[SIZE="3"]4th Gear Pull into Speed Pull[/SIZE]

4th Gear
RPM: 2251 - 6518
HPFP PSI: 2891- 2925
MPH: 32 - 93

Shifted to 5th Gear:
RPM: 5590 - 6504
HPFP PSI: 2717 - 2902
MPH: 97 - 121

Shifted to 6th Gear:
RPM: 5593 - 5564 (point I let off)
HPFP PSI: 2756 - 2889
MPH: 123 - 134

[SIZE="2"]For those who plan on keeping the car. I can’t stress enough how important an LSD is!! At no point did I ever feel the car oversteer (kick the backend out). Loosing traction propelled me straight and forward .. [/SIZE]

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Can't believe how drastic of a change the LSD was.. it's so hard to justify until you drive with it..

will never go back

n55david · 02-21-2020, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronanz

Logged my first revision with CaryTheLabelGuy (JordanTuning) last night on a "closed track". Although I won't post my log details quite yet (this is not a “JordanTuned” Thread), I can definitely state the Dorch Engineering HPFP is W E L L worth the hype and money!!

ALL pulls were on same log....back...to...back...to...back...to...back

FUEL: Shittiest possible 91oct

At 100% Throttle (mashed to floor):

1st Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2500 - 6626
HPFP PSI: 2904 - 2920
MPH: 31 - 75

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5977 - 6681
HPFP PSI: 2740 - 2892
MPH: 79 - 96

2nd Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2588 - 6541
HPFP PSI: 2619 - 2802
MPH: 29 - 78

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5770 - 6546
HPFP PSI: 2819 - 2906
MPH: 82 - 94

3rd Pull

3rd Gear:
RPM: 2731 - 6724
HPFP PSI: 2909 - 2935
MPH: 31 - 76

Shifted to 4th Gear:
RPM: 5923 - 6668
HPFP PSI: 2697 - 2864
MPH: 80 - 98

4th Gear Pull into Speed Pull

4th Gear
RPM: 2251 - 6518
HPFP PSI: 2891- 2925
MPH: 32 - 93

Shifted to 5th Gear:
RPM: 5590 - 6504
HPFP PSI: 2717 - 2902
MPH: 97 - 121

Shifted to 6th Gear:
RPM: 5593 - 5564 (point I let off)
HPFP PSI: 2756 - 2889
MPH: 123 - 134

For those who plan on keeping the car. I can’t stress enough how important an LSD is!! At no point did I ever feel the car oversteer (kick the backend out). Loosing traction propelled me straight and forward ..

.

PM incoming

FL_F30 · 02-22-2020, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aps

couldn't pass it up at this price - I jumped in for a stage 1

Ordered mine yesterday. Sucks I have to wait 2 weeks to get it.

ronanz · 03-02-2020, 11:02 PM

Ok, currently on 1st revision of e40 Map. Not able to get to e50 due to the absolutely bullshit octane I have here. DEFINITELY ALL HANDS ON DECK tho!!

I'm definitely full of shit about that whole "loosing traction propelled me straight and forward" nonsense I wrote in the 2nd post. 3rd gear pulls are impossible as the oversteer swings my ass to the left as tho my rear end wants to see what's going on up front. Can't imagine the shit show without LSD!!

Switched to 4th gear pulls into 5th to 110mph. Pump held to 2881psi at 20psi boost

Back....to....back......to......back pulls

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AmuroRay · 03-02-2020, 11:16 PM

Too much torque. Dial it down and add that power to mid and top end.

ronanz · 03-02-2020, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Too much torque. Dial it down and add that power to mid and top end.

Yup...1st revision 🍻

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ronanz · 03-08-2020, 05:27 PM

Did not log first Run (was a terrible launch and run away).

FUEL: e42

At 100% Throttle (mashed to floor):

2nd Run

1st Gear:
RPM: 2024 - 6756
HPFP PSI: 2419 - 2947
MPH: 3 - 25

2nd Gear:
RPM: 5357 - 6798
HPFP PSI: 2649 - 2946
MPH: 32 - 47

3rd Gear:
RPM: 6189 - 6990
HPFP PSI: 2883 - 2854
MPH: 51 - 79

4th Gear:
RPM: 6513 - 6954
HPFP PSI: 2597 - 2896
MPH: 81 - 99

5th Gear:
RPM: 5933 - 6780
HPFP PSI: 2614 - 2898
MPH: 101 - 127

6th Gear:
RPM: 6120 - 6017
HPFP PSI: 2548 - 2902
MPH: 127 - 142

3rd Run

1st Gear:
RPM: 2252 - 6856
HPFP PSI: 2896 - 2993
MPH: 4 - 23

2nd Gear:
RPM: 5573 - 6896
HPFP PSI: 2862 - 2904
MPH: 28 - 45

3rd Gear:
RPM: 5290 - 6541
HPFP PSI: 2870 - 2802
MPH: 57 - 78

4th Gear:
RPM: 4614 - 6754
HPFP PSI: 2840 - 2834
MPH: 62 - 98

5th Gear:
RPM: 5596 - 6663
HPFP PSI: 2771 - 2901
MPH: 101 - 124

6th Gear:
RPM: 5452 - 6100
HPFP PSI: 2848 - 2965
MPH: 128 - 144

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Munchi435i · 03-08-2020, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronanz

Did not log first Run (was a terrible launch and run away).

FUEL: e42

At 100% Throttle (mashed to floor):

2nd Run

1st Gear:
RPM: 2024 - 6756
HPFP PSI: 2419 - 2947
MPH: 3 - 25

2nd Gear:
RPM: 5357 - 6798
HPFP PSI: 2649 - 2946
MPH: 32 - 47

3rd Gear:
RPM: 6189 - 6990
HPFP PSI: 2883 - 2854
MPH: 51 - 79

4th Gear:
RPM: 6513 - 6954
HPFP PSI: 2597 - 2896
MPH: 81 - 99

5th Gear:
RPM: 5933 - 6780
HPFP PSI: 2614 - 2898
MPH: 101 - 127

6th Gear:
RPM: 6120 - 6017
HPFP PSI: 2548 - 2902
MPH: 127 - 142

3rd Run

1st Gear:
RPM: 2252 - 6856
HPFP PSI: 2896 - 2993
MPH: 4 - 23

2nd Gear:
RPM: 5573 - 6896
HPFP PSI: 2862 - 2904
MPH: 28 - 45

3rd Gear:
RPM: 5290 - 6541
HPFP PSI: 2870 - 2802
MPH: 57 - 78

4th Gear:
RPM: 4614 - 6754
HPFP PSI: 2840 - 2834
MPH: 62 - 98

5th Gear:
RPM: 5596 - 6663
HPFP PSI: 2771 - 2901
MPH: 101 - 124

6th Gear:
RPM: 5452 - 6100
HPFP PSI: 2848 - 2965
MPH: 128 - 144

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Sounds good and all but without a log this is meaningless.

ronanz · 03-08-2020, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Munchi435i

Sounds good and all but without a log this is meaningless.

This is a Dorch HPFP PSI thread...not a tuning log thread

Point is to show PSI throughout the RPM band.....not tuning strategies...

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yokata · 03-08-2020, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Man I would love to test one of these as I'm having issues now with stock pump and FBO with custom Cary Jordan tune.

Yeah im same(custom caryjordan tune hpfp fail) i cant wait to swap with the b58 2 gen hpfp this week and do some logs and 100-200 runs ✌️✌️✌️

Munchi435i · 03-08-2020, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronanz

This is a Dorch HPFP PSI thread...not a tuning log thread

Point is to show PSI throughout the RPM band.....not tuning strategies...

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Your just posting data without proof. Would be beneficial to see a log showing what your claiming.

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ronanz Gettin It Figured Out 1820 Rep 2,669 Posts Drives: 435i FBO PS2 bm3 w/ options Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Southwest Region iTrader: (3)	First Revision Update Logged my first revision with CaryTheLabelGuy (JordanTuning) last night on a "closed track". Although I won't post my log details quite yet (this is not a “JordanTuned” Thread), I can definitely state the Dorch Engineering HPFP is W E L L worth the hype and money!! ALL pulls were on same log....back...to...back...to...back...to...back FUEL: Shittiest possible 91oct At 100% Throttle (mashed to floor): 1st Pull 3rd Gear: RPM: 2500 - 6626 HPFP PSI: 2904 - 2920 MPH: 31 - 75 Shifted to 4th Gear: RPM: 5977 - 6681 HPFP PSI: 2740 - 2892 MPH: 79 - 96 2nd Pull 3rd Gear: RPM: 2588 - 6541 HPFP PSI: 2619 - 2802 MPH: 29 - 78 Shifted to 4th Gear: RPM: 5770 - 6546 HPFP PSI: 2819 - 2906 MPH: 82 - 94 3rd Pull 3rd Gear: RPM: 2731 - 6724 HPFP PSI: 2909 - 2935 MPH: 31 - 76 Shifted to 4th Gear: RPM: 5923 - 6668 HPFP PSI: 2697 - 2864 MPH: 80 - 98 4th Gear Pull into Speed Pull 4th Gear RPM: 2251 - 6518 HPFP PSI: 2891- 2925 MPH: 32 - 93 Shifted to 5th Gear: RPM: 5590 - 6504 HPFP PSI: 2717 - 2902 MPH: 97 - 121 Shifted to 6th Gear: RPM: 5593 - 5564 (point I let off) HPFP PSI: 2756 - 2889 MPH: 123 - 134 For those who plan on keeping the car. I can’t stress enough how important an LSD is!! At no point did I ever feel the car oversteer (kick the backend out). Loosing traction propelled me straight and forward .. . __________________ . My Build Thread can be found HERE Last edited by ronanz; 02-21-2020 at 05:22 PM..
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ronanz Gettin It Figured Out 1820 Rep 2,669 Posts Drives: 435i FBO PS2 bm3 w/ options Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Southwest Region iTrader: (3)	3/2 Update: e40 1st Revision Ok, currently on 1st revision of e40 Map. Not able to get to e50 due to the absolutely bullshit octane I have here. DEFINITELY ALL HANDS ON DECK tho!! I'm definitely full of shit about that whole "loosing traction propelled me straight and forward" nonsense I wrote in the 2nd post. 3rd gear pulls are impossible as the oversteer swings my ass to the left as tho my rear end wants to see what's going on up front. Can't imagine the shit show without LSD!! Switched to 4th gear pulls into 5th to 110mph. Pump held to 2881psi at 20psi boost Back....to....back......to......back pulls . __________________ . My Build Thread can be found HERE
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03-08-2020, 05:27 PM	#62
ronanz Gettin It Figured Out 1820 Rep 2,669 Posts Drives: 435i FBO PS2 bm3 w/ options Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Southwest Region iTrader: (3)	3/7: NoFlyZoneArizona 1/2 Mile Event Did not log first Run (was a terrible launch and run away). FUEL: e42 At 100% Throttle (mashed to floor): 2nd Run 1st Gear: RPM: 2024 - 6756 HPFP PSI: 2419 - 2947 MPH: 3 - 25 2nd Gear: RPM: 5357 - 6798 HPFP PSI: 2649 - 2946 MPH: 32 - 47 3rd Gear: RPM: 6189 - 6990 HPFP PSI: 2883 - 2854 MPH: 51 - 79 4th Gear: RPM: 6513 - 6954 HPFP PSI: 2597 - 2896 MPH: 81 - 99 5th Gear: RPM: 5933 - 6780 HPFP PSI: 2614 - 2898 MPH: 101 - 127 6th Gear: RPM: 6120 - 6017 HPFP PSI: 2548 - 2902 MPH: 127 - 142 3rd Run 1st Gear: RPM: 2252 - 6856 HPFP PSI: 2896 - 2993 MPH: 4 - 23 2nd Gear: RPM: 5573 - 6896 HPFP PSI: 2862 - 2904 MPH: 28 - 45 3rd Gear: RPM: 5290 - 6541 HPFP PSI: 2870 - 2802 MPH: 57 - 78 4th Gear: RPM: 4614 - 6754 HPFP PSI: 2840 - 2834 MPH: 62 - 98 5th Gear: RPM: 5596 - 6663 HPFP PSI: 2771 - 2901 MPH: 101 - 124 6th Gear: RPM: 5452 - 6100 HPFP PSI: 2848 - 2965 MPH: 128 - 144 . __________________ . My Build Thread can be found HERE
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