bootmod3 for BMW F series Vehicles - General Discussion

proTUNING Freaks · 07-04-2017, 11:27 AM

We'd like to welcome EAS (European Auto Source) to the bootmod3 dealer program. They've been great to work with and their in-house Dynojet 224 xLC is available for those of you looking to get dynoed or custom tuned. This M2 was there recently and made 509whp/510wtq on E85 at just 18.5psi with a Pure Stage 2 turbo on it and secondary port fuel injection via the AIC fuel controller:

Chicken_Joe · 07-04-2017, 06:28 PM

You say something about PWG burble mod????

lens · 07-04-2017, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicken_Joe

You say something about PWG burble mod????

They have PWG burble out for a while now, you just have to open a ticket and ask lol

dr.roro · 07-04-2017, 07:27 PM

More importantly, any dyno numbers/graphs for Stage 1 OTS 93oct on a stock N55? Bonus points for F32 EWG. Been asking for months now...

Insane435 · 07-12-2017, 07:22 PM

Whats the cost to have one of the dealers unlock the DME?

50shadesofhockenheim · 07-12-2017, 07:31 PM

I wanna see some numbers of a PWG 335i with Bootmod3.. dyno numbers, 1/4 times, acceleration videos?

ronanz · 07-12-2017, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Insane435

Whats the cost to have one of the dealers unlock the DME?

Depends. Dealer sets what their fees are...I'd suggest contacting them directly...

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Insane435 · 07-13-2017, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ronanz

Depends. Dealer sets what their fees are...I'd suggest contacting them directly...

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Sounds good. I really only have one option and even that is 5hrs away. Bootmod3 seems worlds better than jb4. If i never run meth, is there even a reason to keep my jb4? It seems my unit may become somewhat valuable because i didnt update firmware and lose the code clearing capabilities.

afranke · 07-13-2017, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Insane435

Sounds good. I really only have one option and even that is 5hrs away. Bootmod3 seems worlds better than jb4. If i never run meth, is there even a reason to keep my jb4? It seems my unit may become somewhat valuable because i didnt update firmware and lose the code clearing capabilities.

If you currently want to go over 21psi at all, you need the N20 TMAP sensor and the JB4 to interpret the signal properly.

I asked PTF if BM3 would ever have this ability and they told me "We're testing that soon and we'll see how far we can go. You'll most likely have to replace both sensors if we make it work, pre-throttle and the one on the manifold."

Very promising. If/when they do support this, I'll be ditching the JB4 for sure.

Insane435 · 07-13-2017, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FSociety

Yes I think it might be similar to what it's done on S55 (M3/M4) and S63TU (M5/M6) and upgraded map sensor and Map Scaling (Not EASY) as very very FEW ppl are able to do it

They will force you to update soon or later, #JB4Problems

How can they force me? Lol. I need to make the trip to Chicago soon for my bm3 install.

50shadesofhockenheim · 07-13-2017, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FSociety

They will force you to update soon or later, #JB4Problems

How would they force me to update my JB4? It's not like it's connected to the internet

obriennathaniel · 07-14-2017, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Insane435

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Originally Posted by ronanz

Depends. Dealer sets what their fees are...I'd suggest contacting them directly...

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Sounds good. I really only have one option and even that is 5hrs away. Bootmod3 seems worlds better than jb4. If i never run meth, is there even a reason to keep my jb4? It seems my unit may become somewhat valuable because i didnt update firmware and lose the code clearing capabilities.

Am I missing something here? The JB4 can?t clear codes anymore?

SeanWRT · 07-14-2017, 09:14 AM

Flash tune deals with code only better.

JB4 exists for a lot of reasons. 1) superior boost control capability (not restricted by DME load target), 2) meth/PI integration 3) easier data log via BT and map switch on the fly. Just to name a few.

Mr. Tasty · 07-14-2017, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanWRT

Flash tune deals with code only better.

JB4 exists for a lot of reasons. 1) superior boost control capability (not restricted by DME load target), 2) meth/PI integration 3) easier data log via BT and map switch on the fly. Just to name a few.

JB4 on the n54 platform was easily taken over by MHD. BM3 is more sophisticated than MHD. JB4 will be useless once more, given time.

Tuning will always go in favor of actual DME tunes, not piggy back tunes.

FSociety · 07-14-2017, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Tasty

JB4 on the n54 platform was easily taken over by MHD. BM3 is more sophisticated than MHD. JB4 will be useless once more, given time.

Tuning will always go in favor of actual DME tunes, not piggy back tunes.

THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!

Insane435 · 07-17-2017, 09:24 AM

Just got a quote for $400 to just to the DME unlock at the closest shop. Seems ridiculously high seeing that some members can get the DME out in 20 minutes. The mail in unlock is $150 at the same place. So $250 of labor to remove it...

HKD126 · 07-17-2017, 09:36 AM

$400 is exactly what I'm paying tomorrow. It's up to you what it's worth. For me, I don't have a lot of time since I travel for work. I'll have BM3 installed in the morning and be ripping around the streets by the afternoon. If you have time to have your car ripped apart waiting to mail your DME and for it to return, do that. To me, it's worth the extra $300 to have it done immediately. It's the difference of driving my car tomorrow, or waiting another 5 weeks until I get home again.... I chose tomorrow.

Insane435 · 07-17-2017, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HKD126

$400 is exactly what I'm paying tomorrow. It's up to you what it's worth. For me, I don't have a lot of time since I travel for work. I'll have BM3 installed in the morning and be ripping around the streets by the afternoon. If you have time to have your car ripped apart waiting to mail your DME and for it to return, do that. To me, it's worth the extra $300 to have it done immediately. It's the difference of driving my car tomorrow, or waiting another 5 weeks until I get home again.... I chose tomorrow.

Understood, if $400 is the standard then I'm ok with paying it. It probably would save me alot of headaches.

HKD126 · 07-17-2017, 09:54 AM

You mentioned Chicago... I assume you were talking to Alex from VNV Speed? That's exactly where I'm headed tomorrow, so I can't speak for rates elsewhere.

Insane435 · 07-17-2017, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HKD126

You mentioned Chicago... I assume you were talking to Alex from VNV Speed? That's exactly where I'm headed tomorrow, so I can't speak for rates elsewhere.

Yea that's where I would head. Let me know how your experience goes.

HKD126 · 07-17-2017, 10:00 AM

Will do.

F30_SixSpeed · 07-17-2017, 11:54 AM

$400 is reasonable for a DME unlock + labor.

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HKD126 Captain 347 Rep 801 Posts Drives: 2014 335i, 2009 335xi Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Wisconsin iTrader: (0)	$400 is exactly what I'm paying tomorrow. It's up to you what it's worth. For me, I don't have a lot of time since I travel for work. I'll have BM3 installed in the morning and be ripping around the streets by the afternoon. If you have time to have your car ripped apart waiting to mail your DME and for it to return, do that. To me, it's worth the extra $300 to have it done immediately. It's the difference of driving my car tomorrow, or waiting another 5 weeks until I get home again.... I chose tomorrow.
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