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I have absolutely no problem with paying $2K. At the end of the day, the cost to manufacturer would be almost the same as a Stage 2 turbo, just a little quicker machining. My want for a turbo like this is not to save money vs a Stage 2, it's just to have the turbo sized for my needs.
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To "make a smaller stage 2" that is also cost competitive, turbine need to be upgraded without being enlarged, so there is no matching required on turbine housing. Can change the turbine blade number/pitch/type, trading a little spool for less backpressure and thus more top end power. If new turbine and compressor pairs well, this upgrade essentially qualifies for a stage 1.5.
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With your mindset, this so called smaller stage 2 will never happen.
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Here’s an example with the OEM on top for comparison from sbrach
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From Jeff@Speedtech , N55 OEM cutaway.
Stock OEM is double walled and air gapped. https://www.speedtech.com/shopping/bmw-n55-manifold Last edited by IK6SPEED; 12-19-2018 at 10:55 AM.. |
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Speedtech page doesn't say what kind of flange is used.
Also the aftermarket manifold sitting next to the oem for comparison seems to use a vband flange? Is that speed tech as well? Or who?
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Note view of Speedtech from the top and the quantity of air that can be moved vs Vargas. Last edited by IK6SPEED; 12-19-2018 at 06:39 PM.. |
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http://performance.vargasturbo.com/e...&product_id=31 If so, can you or Vargas chime in, as to the difference between the "new GC turbo" and the Stage 2 DBB that VTTO used to offer since 2016 but seemingly discontinued? If not, what exactly is the great contender that's coming? Hybrid + DBB + New-Casting-Turbofold never shine or even exists with N55 platform because of the cost, apparently. But it's really the BEST route in my opinion.
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Stage 2 price is cost competitive. People choose their turbo sizing based on their requirements. Smaller does not always mean cheaper. A lot of people understand this.
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They have been molasses slow to respond unfortunately bro. Guess they have their reasons why they respond several days to weeks later. However while being patient let us see what their competitive price will be for their pwg kit that will either make or break this product they have coming out vs the competition.
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