bootmod3 for BMW F series Vehicles - General Discussion

Seba77W · 10-22-2018, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by aturk

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Originally Posted by Seba77W

Really? You regret the $3 and change you spent per plug? I don't think it's a big deal, just run em for 20k and swap for something else. I'm running the NGK 97506 with my MHD Stage 2+ 95 octane tune and they've been great. When I took them out of the box I checked the gap, it was at about .030 so I left it there and they work great. All though MHD recommends stock plugs and gap as well. However running the more aggressive timing 95 octane tune I figured why not splurge on the 1 step colder NGKs.

Where do you find them for $3/plug???

They are around $13/plug from RockAuto.

Was meant to say $3 and change extra per plug over the Bosch. I apologize for any confusion. I will do my best not to have this same problem come up in the future, and thank you.

TSA8151 · 10-22-2018, 10:40 AM

Does bootmod3 have a race gas ots tune for pwg n55s?

stlb5 · 10-22-2018, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by stlb5

A couple runs today. Boost is higher and WGDC is lower. The logs yesterday were right after I flashed Stage 2, could it be learning? Do these show any signs of boost leak?

Run 1

Run 2

Above were logs on Shell 93. Here are the logs on BP 93 with 4 ounces of Boostane Premium. I was struggling for traction in 2nd so only got one log feathering throttle. Do these look better? Did the boostane help?

2nd Gear
3rd Gear 1
3rd Gear 2

Pray for Mojo · 10-22-2018, 11:30 AM

Those look good, the timing is clean on 3rd Gear 1, on 3rd Gear 2 the #3 cylinder is behind but catches up at higher RPM. I'd say the boostane fixed the timing up. If you're going to run boostane going forward I recommend getting the professional to save some money per can.

F30_SixSpeed · 10-23-2018, 12:16 PM

F30 N55 335i PWG - PS2 Turbo + FBO. STOCK Fuel system 93 octane.

Stock tune and OTS S2H 93 oct v7.1

Gainzzz

JaredG_F30 · 10-23-2018, 01:24 PM

Hell yeah!! NOt bad for an OTS map.

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Originally Posted by F30_SixSpeed

F30 N55 335i PWG - PS2 Turbo + FBO. STOCK Fuel system 93 octane.

Stock tune and OTS S2H 93 oct v7.1

Gainzzz

XxThe_RemedyXx · 10-23-2018, 03:22 PM

Anyone know why EWG maps are at 6.1 and PWG maps are at 7.1? Is it just because of the hardware differences?

upsidedownfunnel · 10-23-2018, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Anyone know why EWG maps are at 6.1 and PWG maps are at 7.1? Is it just because of the hardware differences?

They're considered completely different platforms so it's unlikely their versions will match up. I think it's a coincidence that they both happen to be on an .1 version. Maybe the PWG maps released first or required more patching. Who knows. It's just a version number.

For example, the N55 in the M2 is "only" on version 5.5. It doesn't mean anything.

stlb5 · 10-23-2018, 04:24 PM

Are the E30 maps based on octane? Based on an online calculator, e30 is about 96 octane. Could I run an e30 map if I added boostane to get 98 octane?

wdeerfield · 10-23-2018, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wdeerfield

I notice a lot of users have a catless downpipe but that is problematic for me in NY. I saw that they have recommended hardware for the tunes. Is it possible to run the stage 2 tune with an upgraded CP, FMIC, and intake only? im trying to figure out what is my best course since im still stock downpipe and exhaust at the moment with no plans to upgrade the DP due to emissions here. Unless someone knows a way to set the readiness monitors.

please excuse my ignorance but i cant find a definitive answer on this and they dont seem to list out the OTS maps unless you buy from them. In the event the stage 2 will not work for me, is stage 1 worth it from those that have used it?

Anyone able to help out with this or is it best to just email PTF?

upsidedownfunnel · 10-23-2018, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wdeerfield

Anyone able to help out with this or is it best to just email PTF?

I was in the exact same boat. Some people say you can proceed cautiously while others recommend against it.

I currently run an FMIC and CP but no DP and have stayed on Stage 1 91 (I'm in CA). Others have tried Stage 2 with no mods at all but I doubt anyone would do so long term.

You can email PTF, and if they even get back to you, they'd just point you to their recommendations anyway.

I think the best option for us is to eventually get a custom tune. We probably fit in somewhere between Stage 1 and Stage 2 but probably closer to Stage 1. It'd be nice if PTF released a Stage 1+ for people with FMIC. I feel like a lot of people prefer not to install a catless DP.

designatedposter · 10-23-2018, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by stlb5

Are the E30 maps based on octane? Based on an online calculator, e30 is about 96 octane. Could I run an e30 map if I added boostane to get 98 octane?

Octane and fuel trim. Ethanol rich fuels have less power density so requires more fuel.

HKD126 · 10-23-2018, 06:59 PM

Custom Meth tune - 415awhp/492awtq
Custom 93 tune - 370awhp/467awtq
OTS 93 tune - 370awhp/399awtq
Stock flash - 295awhp/290awtq

JordanTuned

2014 335i XDrive
AFE drop in filter
ER charge pipe
Wagner Comp Evo 2 IC
ER catless downpipe
TorqByte CM5LT/5gph nozzle/100% meth

Slight misfire on the 93 tune with OEM plugs at OEM gap. Power was dialed back from the 390ish area on the 93 tune due to misfiring. Swapped to NGK gapped to .020, misfires cleaned up a bit, but still slightly present up top around 6k. Misfires were non existent on the meth tune. Cary thinks I need new coils as they have 45k on them. Keep in mind both tunes are not quite done yet due to the coil issue. I will have to swap them and we can resume this coming spring when the snow disappears and I am back from traveling for work. We should see quite an improvement in the top end. Nothing that can’t be finished on the street and another quick dyno session.

First and second gear are currently useless until I get some better rubber. I highly recommend a custom tune over OTS. My car would’ve probably made more power with the AWE catback I used to have on it, but the exhaust was so damn loud I couldn’t take it anymore...

I’ll post a graph tomorrow when I get it.

F30_SixSpeed · 10-23-2018, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wdeerfield

I notice a lot of users have a catless downpipe but that is problematic for me in NY. I saw that they have recommended hardware for the tunes. Is it possible to run the stage 2 tune with an upgraded CP, FMIC, and intake only? im trying to figure out what is my best course since im still stock downpipe and exhaust at the moment with no plans to upgrade the DP due to emissions here. Unless someone knows a way to set the readiness monitors.

please excuse my ignorance but i cant find a definitive answer on this and they dont seem to list out the OTS maps unless you buy from them. In the event the stage 2 will not work for me, is stage 1 worth it from those that have used it?

You can try Wagner Catted DP. Never had a CEL or problems with emissions with that DP. Highly recommended.

You can technically run stage 2 with stock DP, but not really recommended.

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Originally Posted by JaredG_F30

Hell yeah!! NOt bad for an OTS map.

I was certainly happy! Car ran really strong on that map!! Now adding more fueling and boost!!

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Originally Posted by HKD126

Custom Meth tune - 415awhp/492awtq
Custom 93 tune - 370awhp/467awtq
OTS 93 tune - 370awhp/399awtq
Stock flash - 295awhp/290awtq

JordanTuned

2014 335i XDrive
AFE drop in filter
ER charge pipe
Wagner Comp Evo 2 IC
ER catless downpipe
TorqByte CM5LT/5gph nozzle/100% meth

Slight misfire on the 93 tune with OEM plugs at OEM gap. Power was dialed back from the 390ish area on the 93 tune due to misfiring. Swapped to NGK gapped to .020, misfires cleaned up a bit, but still slightly present up top. Misfires were non existent on the meth tune. Cary thinks I need new coils as they have 45k on them.

First and second gear are currently useless until I get some better rubber. I highly recommend a custom tune over OTS.

I’ll post a graph tomorrow when I get it.

Nice numbers! No Graphs though

HKD126 · 10-23-2018, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by F30_SixSpeed

You can try Wagner Catted DP. Never had a CEL or problems with emissions with that DP. Highly recommended.

You can technically run stage 2 with stock DP, but not really recommended.

I was certainly happy! Car ran really strong on that map!! Now adding more fueling and boost!!

Nice numbers! No Graphs though

I’ll have the graph tomorrow.

HKD126 · 10-24-2018, 09:29 AM

Dyno chart up.

designatedposter · 10-24-2018, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HKD126

Dyno chart up.

No graph of the ots 93?

HKD126 · 10-24-2018, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by designatedposter

No graph of the ots 93?

They have it there. This is what I was sent today. I have one from a previous visit to the same dyno as well...

ceedawg · 10-28-2018, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by stlb5

I finally go around to loading BM3 on my Avin 10.25" Andriod screen and it works. Much better than my phone display. This is the 7.1 version, would not run on 4.4.

So Sweet I need this!!

$howtime456 · 10-28-2018, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by F30_SixSpeed

F30 N55 335i PWG - PS2 Turbo + FBO. STOCK Fuel system 93 octane.

Stock tune and OTS S2H 93 oct v7.1

Gainzzz

NICE!!!

Guerillah · 11-01-2018, 11:42 PM

When running e30, how do you guys manage to keep the ethanol content consistently at/around 30% after multiple fill ups? I feel like it's a big guessing game since you don't really know how much fuel is in your tank.. ?? I have a e85 station about 6 miles away which is why I ask.

ronanz · 11-01-2018, 11:58 PM

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When running e30, how do you guys manage to keep the ethanol content consistently at/around 30% after multiple fill ups? I feel like it's a big guessing game since you don't really know how much fuel is in your tank.. ?? I have a e85 station about 6 miles away which is why I ask.

This is what I use.... Fuel-It Flex-Fuel Sensor BT Analyzer

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stlb5 Lieutenant 217 Rep 521 Posts Drives: '19 M2C MT, '15 X5 Msport Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: St. Louis iTrader: (0)	Are the E30 maps based on octane? Based on an online calculator, e30 is about 96 octane. Could I run an e30 map if I added boostane to get 98 octane? __________________ 2019 M2 Comp, MT, BSM 2015 X5 Msport, CB (Hers) 2014 M235i MT, BSM, MPE, Dinan Springs (Sold)
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HKD126 Captain 347 Rep 801 Posts Drives: 2014 335i, 2009 335xi Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Wisconsin iTrader: (0)	Custom Meth tune - 415awhp/492awtq Custom 93 tune - 370awhp/467awtq OTS 93 tune - 370awhp/399awtq Stock flash - 295awhp/290awtq JordanTuned 2014 335i XDrive AFE drop in filter ER charge pipe Wagner Comp Evo 2 IC ER catless downpipe TorqByte CM5LT/5gph nozzle/100% meth Slight misfire on the 93 tune with OEM plugs at OEM gap. Power was dialed back from the 390ish area on the 93 tune due to misfiring. Swapped to NGK gapped to .020, misfires cleaned up a bit, but still slightly present up top around 6k. Misfires were non existent on the meth tune. Cary thinks I need new coils as they have 45k on them. Keep in mind both tunes are not quite done yet due to the coil issue. I will have to swap them and we can resume this coming spring when the snow disappears and I am back from traveling for work. We should see quite an improvement in the top end. Nothing that can’t be finished on the street and another quick dyno session. First and second gear are currently useless until I get some better rubber. I highly recommend a custom tune over OTS. My car would’ve probably made more power with the AWE catback I used to have on it, but the exhaust was so damn loud I couldn’t take it anymore... I’ll post a graph tomorrow when I get it. Last edited by HKD126; 10-24-2018 at 06:32 PM..
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